[3.1] JUGGERNAUT/BERSERKER 1H+Shield Max Block&Spell Block Tank, Atziri Killer+a BoR version

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alecs87 wrote:
1. What I'm actually interested in is what gems is worth getting quality on? could you add this next to the gem section please?

2. In your videos you use Ice crash that can get a boost in dmg by using CE gem, and here I'm talking about end game maps/Atziri. Could another dmg gem like added chaos/light replace IAO?
How about using multistrike + weap elem dmg instead of CE+IAO?

3. How much dps a rare mace should have to outperform the 300+dps + 100% elem dmg from doryani? Obviously not referring to mirrored ones here.

4. Rainbowstride seems like a big trade of life/armour for spell block. As your passive tree is made for lvl 92. After this is it viable to spend 2 points and take a gem slot for Reckless Defence replacing the boots with rares, or are there better passives that outperform this? ( like those small nods of 4%life/8%armour/ etc)

5. How do you keep the golemn alive? Mine dies in a few seconds. So most of the times I find myself playing without as I need to cast it non stop.

6. You've mentioned CWDT is not worth linking to IC anymore. Would it work to level it so it activates only when you take a huge hit? This way charges will be up most of the time. I sometimes find myself dying because IC doesn't cast

1. All gems except aura gems.

2. Multistrike doesn't work with Ice Crash. There is no better gem for DPS than Concentrated Effect, as it has a 59% MORE damage multiplier at level 20. "More" is much better than "increased".

3. Around 330+ dps IMO, but you'll have to check that for yourself.

4. You can do that, you will lose a bit spell block, though. A jewel slot is the best choice after lvl 92.

5. That's normal, all builds are like that, except maybe summoner builds with a bunch of minion life nodes. That's just an annoying thing everyone has to deal with :)

6. You can try, but it's not worth the gem slots IMO.
1H+Shield High Block&Spell Block Tank: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/868995
Ice Crash Crit Staff AKA "The Shaterring Karui": https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1289037
Tanky Block+AR+EV Ranger Crit Reave Dagger/Claw: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1301888
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ComradeSerge wrote:

1. All gems except aura gems.

2. Multistrike doesn't work with Ice Crash. There is no better gem for DPS than Concentrated Effect, as it has a 59% MORE damage multiplier at level 20. "More" is much better than "increased".

3. Around 330+ dps IMO, but you'll have to check that for yourself.

4. You can do that, you will lose a bit spell block, though. A jewel slot is the best choice after lvl 92.

5. That's normal, all builds are like that, except maybe summoner builds with a bunch of minion life nodes. That's just an annoying thing everyone has to deal with :)

6. You can try, but it's not worth the gem slots IMO.


Thanks for the feedback. I believe I wasn't very clear with my 1st Q. I was referring to my build, in which I use Earthquake.

I have now reach lvl 89. The only passive I haven't taken yet are the endurance charges nods. I'm at 5.1kHp and is pretty tanky.. In 30-35 runs on T10 -T12 full party I've only died 1 time at some nasty boss mods.

However damage is still low for atziri. 25k in town/ 30k with Hatred/ 35k with 4 endurance charges at 2.5hits. With Berserker class. That's why I was asking about linking Multistrike-Earthquake. Maybe faster attacks?

Are there any other options for damage boost? Or should I change the main skill?
Other than that it's a nice build for the cost.

I would really like to see a game play video for the 2.2 patch with all the updates.
Cheers
Last edited by alecs87#3024 on Apr 18, 2016, 7:09:45 PM
The "low DPS" is part of the build. The moment you decided to do a 1-handed RT build, you decided to accept having less DPS for more survivability. That's just how it is.

On the other hand, GGG should show more love for 1h RT builds, as they are all quite lackluster on the DPS side. Of course, with a 50ex budget, you can buy a 350+ pDPS mace and get a lot more tooltip dps. How much dps overall will it net you, I have no idea.
1H+Shield High Block&Spell Block Tank: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/868995
Ice Crash Crit Staff AKA "The Shaterring Karui": https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1289037
Tanky Block+AR+EV Ranger Crit Reave Dagger/Claw: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1301888
I was never dying, and I wanted to get a bit more damage, so I skipped SoL-ammu (have it on switch when I need it) and use a ammu with some added phys dmg. Gives me around 3k dps. The rings have phys dmg too.

I also run Hatred+HoA auras, and cast Warlord's mark manually when needed. I have 6 charges as max, and they all give an extra 6% dmg, so it's worth having them up. On top of that I cast an Ancestral Protector when I need that extra punch... All in all, it adds up to a max tooltip dps of 55k. Which is working fine for me!

Don't forget to get an enchantment for Earthquake on your helmet!

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mats_mono wrote:
I was never dying, and I wanted to get a bit more damage, so I skipped SoL-ammu (have it on switch when I need it) and use a ammu with some added phys dmg. Gives me around 3k dps. The rings have phys dmg too.

I also run Hatred+HoA auras, and cast Warlord's mark manually when needed. I have 6 charges as max, and they all give an extra 6% dmg, so it's worth having them up. On top of that I cast an Ancestral Protector when I need that extra punch... All in all, it adds up to a max tooltip dps of 55k. Which is working fine for me!

Don't forget to get an enchantment for Earthquake on your helmet!



Today I've removed Determination gem as I never got to use it so far.( and I already have 11k armour) I've replaced it with Enduring Cry ( when in party) OR Rallying Cry when playing solo. The maximum dmg I've managed to get was 39K dps. And this with lvl 15 Hatred/Warlord combo and with other gems lvl 19 and no quality. So I'm thinking when all gems will be 20/20 it should reach about 50k or so... maybe close to 55K with Hatred+ HoA combo.

If you got a rallying cry gem and want to give it a try let me know how's ur damage.

ps: Ofc helm ench is important..but rng is a bitch.
Last edited by alecs87#3024 on Apr 19, 2016, 7:18:19 PM
Hi,i really like this build : ),i'm lvl 85 (4,9k HP)

but i've got low dps 18K with Hatred +7 Endurance Charge,i'm using Earthquake,my question is how can I improve my DPS?

this is my gear:



this is my passive skill:

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAEBAAGRAecEhwSzBS0GOQbGDPcNzRLhFCAUTRT2FrsYkRnpGj4aVRzOITQnLygqK1At0i_MMk426DrYOzs9Dz38QKBBP0ZpR35NRlBHUWBR5lcNWGNdpF8_YJFgxGEhYuxo8nKpdO12rHdTd-V5OXrvfLt82X31fuKCB4TZhO-GO4Zgi0-PmZBVkc6WbJd5nsWezZ_LogCi6qcwqZWsr62Nr2yvp7QvvJ-9NsABwGbAv8GCxBXEWMT2xYrG2M9-0iHZYdrB3dXkUeSt6dXqGO8O8B_yQfMG9kj3Mve5-6r8S_5U




Cheers ^^
You're missing flat physical damage on rings, which can give you quite a hefty DPS boost. One 9-15 physical damage ring might give you over 1k extra dps.
1H+Shield High Block&Spell Block Tank: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/868995
Ice Crash Crit Staff AKA "The Shaterring Karui": https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1289037
Tanky Block+AR+EV Ranger Crit Reave Dagger/Claw: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1301888
Been playing for a while now.. and everything was fine until I start doing cor t11+ full party maps. Just couldn't handle boss. So i decided to respec ascendancy and go for Juggernaut.

Obviously damage/attack speed went down.. quite a lot actually from 38K to 21K.

Now "Unrelenting" should add 6% damage per endurance charge. However it doesn't seem to work. So far I have 6 charges(meaning a total of 36%) and when at max stack my damage is the same as when not having any. Any ideas why??! Is it bugged or what?
Last edited by alecs87#3024 on Apr 23, 2016, 8:21:06 PM
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alecs87 wrote:
Been playing for a while now.. and everything was fine until I start doing cor t11+ full party maps. Just couldn't handle boss. So i decided to respec ascendancy and go for Juggernaut.

Obviously damage/attack speed went down.. quite a lot actually from 38K to 21K.

Now "Unrelenting" should add 6% damage per endurance charge. However it doesn't seem to work. So far I have 6 charges(meaning a total of 36%) and when at max stack my damage is the same as when not having any. Any ideas why??! Is it bugged or what?

That's strange, I tested it just today and my tooltip increased from 24k to 31k with my 7 endurance charges... I use Ice Crash, though, myb some other skill is bugged, idk
1H+Shield High Block&Spell Block Tank: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/868995
Ice Crash Crit Staff AKA "The Shaterring Karui": https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1289037
Tanky Block+AR+EV Ranger Crit Reave Dagger/Claw: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1301888
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ComradeSerge wrote:
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alecs87 wrote:
Been playing for a while now.. and everything was fine until I start doing cor t11+ full party maps. Just couldn't handle boss. So i decided to respec ascendancy and go for Juggernaut.

Obviously damage/attack speed went down.. quite a lot actually from 38K to 21K.

Now "Unrelenting" should add 6% damage per endurance charge. However it doesn't seem to work. So far I have 6 charges(meaning a total of 36%) and when at max stack my damage is the same as when not having any. Any ideas why??! Is it bugged or what?

That's strange, I tested it just today and my tooltip increased from 24k to 31k with my 7 endurance charges... I use Ice Crash, though, myb some other skill is bugged, idk


E: fixed now. seems to had been a bug.


However the damage loss from Berserk to Jugger is about 15K dps for me. It seems like a huge damage trade for movement speed. Obviously "Unstoppable" is quite important. But that's the only benefit I can see in using Jug class over Berserker. I have over 11K armour unbuffed anyway. And with flasks I reach 90% dmg reduction. And generating charges is not a problem as I use "Endurying Cry" instead of "Determination" aura. So as far as defense goes, I don't see a big improvement from that 8% elem reduction.


I know the guide offers both options, but how important is actually to spec into Juggernaut? In the end, is it really worth trading so much damage for movement freedom?

I've just got quality on my gems today, but as soon as they level, I'll test Atziri.

Is Ice crash performing better than Earthquake? Why do people prefer it as a main?
Last edited by alecs87#3024 on Apr 24, 2016, 11:18:38 AM

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