A Veteran's Proposal for a Self Found League - Poll Included!

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Worldbreaker wrote:

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symban wrote:

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radmanvr wrote:

I am ok with SFL if only these happen

*my important conditions*.

You, as some random dude on the forums being ok with it means alot to SFL community, thank you for laying out the conditions!

@topic: would love to see the option of a balanced SFL in PoE.

I would like the option to start with a 6L in this optional SFL. Options are never bad!

And with custom leagues in the future your wish might just come true.

=P

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Temper wrote:

And with custom leagues in the future your wish might just come true.

custom league => less players in the league=> moar self foundness

just like in D3 RoS, some players might shrug in horror from what they were asking for :^)
he-he

No IIR buff, just an invasion league with bind on pick up permanent setting.

It makes no sense to build around what you find when you can easily obtain good gears.

I will definitely support a SFL with my money if IIR isn't buffed, vendor recipe isn't cheapened, and the only difference from normal leagues is the regret orb drop rate.


You said it yourself, SF is hard to play in normal leagues BECAUSE players like to compete and compare, once you remove that trading benefit, everyone's at the same starting point as a SF player; you don't need anything else.

MORE IIR AND IMPROVED CRAFTING

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wxyjac wrote:

and the only difference from normal leagues is the regret orb drop rate.

technically regret vendors for alch
and alchs are Very Important(tm).

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wxyjac wrote:

No IIR buff, just an invasion league with bind on pick up permanent setting.

It makes no sense to build around what you find when you can easily obtain good gears.

I will definitely support a SFL with my money if IIR isn't buffed, vendor recipe isn't cheapened, and the only difference from normal leagues is the regret orb drop rate.


You said it yourself, SF is hard to play in normal leagues BECAUSE players like to compete and compare, once you remove that trading benefit, everyone's at the same starting point as a SF player; you don't need anything else.

I thought the point of a SF league was to be able to progress at roughly the same pace as one would in HC/SC(Standard) just without the need to trade for items that actually fit your build. This goal can only be obtained through either increasing the pace at which items drop, or reducing the randomness of the stats.

I'm in favor of a SF league because I don't enjoy trading in the least, and I've had very little luck with drops despite playing extensively(I was even rocking a low-life MF culler for some time). The only reason I could FINALLY afford a 6L(other than one with complete shit for stats/tabula rasa) was because one of the uniques I saved up for before I took a break from PoE went legacy. I imagine a SF league would alleviate the frustration of:

1. not being lucky and getting something like the first iteration of kaoms heart/shavronnes(or now adays, Mjölner) which can harpoon your way to more wealth by either using it or selling it to buy something equally strong.
2. not having to rely on trading, something I find extremely tedious.(I don't think you should get shit for free just for being online and I strongly believe that a game needs tedious aspects to make the fun part actually remain fun for a long period, but actively having to rely on trading to even begin building some wealth in order to get the pieces you need for your build[especially if you're being creative with your build idea and need uniques/very specific stats to make it work] is just soul-draining for me)

Anyway, if the SF league has the same drop rates as HC/SC, there wouldn't be any difference at all, I mean, what would actually stop people from being competitive in a SF league? Yes, everyone is at the same starting point when they create a new character, but what difference does that make for competitive(something most people are by nature) players?

Are you asking for a SF league where you have no contact with other players whatsoever? Because if there is contact, there will be jealousy, clean-slate or not. Also, I don't think most people are interested in a solo-experience. Just to not have to rely so heavily on trading.

Hope that made sense.
Cheers!

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MORE IIR AND IMPROVED CRAFTING

This !!
The current problem with the game is that it feels so unrewarding playing end game content
D2 was about grinding for gear , farming same boses for the loot, here end game is grind mindless for levels because one out of 10000 drops are pure crap and u must trade to ACTUALLY
improve your gear.
I quit the current Torment league after 6 characters and over 500h + because how expensive it is to get a 6L and the fact nothing drops in 78 maps.
Current game design is made with trading in mind thats its biggest FLAW.

Hi

As much as I am/was an advocate of SFL I am not so much anymore, with the advent of masters and some form of actual crafting I am mostly satisfied with the present state of POE. Sure ghosts and melee and higher lvl orb drops could use some love but that's about it.

If an SFL league were to ever come to fruition then it should be increased orb drops NOT items because to me the point of SFL:

Finkestein Aug 13,2013

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SFL:1)No trading with other players.2)No loot allocation timer(what drops for you stays yours), No benefits from party besides monsters being stronger.3) No mf rolls on blue or yellow items.4) Increased orb drops NOT items.

-SFl 4 month temporary league at the end all your equipment is erased.

Lol feels like I wrote that in another life but the point of it was to get across the fundamentals of what we all could agree a SFL would/could be.

cheers