Time for a "Hardcore" 4 month league? Invasion isn't it.

Hardcore leagues are synonymous with the "same version" of the softcore league but with permadeath. Lets make that clear, as that's the entire point of a hardcore league as we typically expect. The standard "Hardcore" league is a ghost town rightly so, it's not worth playing unless you just wanna jag around or test old characters when resets are upon us.

Now I know GGG apparently wants something different with this four month league of Invasion. We keep hearing "Invasion" is *supposed* to kill you. *Supposed* to be ridiculously hard, overtuned, unexpected, etc. Fine. But that's not the hardcore league I'd like to be a part of. Invasion, from what I can tell, has been disappointment to many otherwise "hardcore" players.

I'd prefer to play a hardcore version of Ambush. Why? Because it simply seems more "Fun". Really that's all there is to it, it just seems more fun. And it would keep the spirit of PoE alive for the hardcore players who don't want a "Death" league.

Agree? Disagree?
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Disagree.


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Psomm wrote:

I'd prefer to play a hardcore version of Ambush. Why? Because it simply seems more "Fun".

Start a character on Ambush. If you die, delete the character.

Problem solved.
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Last edited by Panda413#5809 on Mar 18, 2014, 8:42:34 PM
Hardcore is not supposed to be a harder softcore clone for the 4 months leagues, it is imho not meant to be a synonym of softcore.
It wasn't the case right after the release.
It wasn't the case with onslaught/anarchy either.

The 4 months hardcore league is meant to be difficult, to offer a real challenge to player, that's what invasion does. there has been some balance issues with some bosses, there probably are somes ( but less still ), but the point still stands.

Basically : hardcore -> challenge, unforgiving usually.

I don't think that I'll have as much fun in ambush as I'm having when playing invasion, there at least I need to be careful about what can happen, what bosses can fall on my head at any moment ( I'm not at maps yet obviously though ). In ambush, that just looks like a league without additional threats, where you can actually choose or not to face the strongboxes.
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
The leagues should be:

Hard boses on sofcore, to atleash make it a challenge, and boxes on hardcore, rewards for keep alive the character.
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Panda413 wrote:
Disagree.


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Psomm wrote:

I'd prefer to play a hardcore version of Ambush. Why? Because it simply seems more "Fun".

Start a character on Ambush. If you die, delete the character.

Problem solved.
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Real_Wolf wrote:
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Panda413 wrote:
Disagree.


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Psomm wrote:

I'd prefer to play a hardcore version of Ambush. Why? Because it simply seems more "Fun".

Start a character on Ambush. If you die, delete the character.

Problem solved.

That doesn't solve any of the problems. Quit trolling.
What problems?

Op clearly said what he was after a league which was ambush, but you lost everything when you died.

That is ambush + Delete character
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Real_Wolf wrote:
What problems?

Op clearly said what he was after a league which was ambush, but you lost everything when you died.

That is ambush + Delete character

No he wants a hardcore league version of ambush. Deleting your own character after self-imposed rules doesn't make the entire league hardcore.
The 4 month leagues are test beds for new ideas. Seeing how things work out if x is implemented.

Having 2 versions of the same thing is a waste of time.
"The Onslaught league is a hardcore league designed for players who found our existing hardcore gameplay too easy."

source: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/400347

Taking that logic and applying it to the new leagues, Invasion is NOT suppose to be an synonymous version of ambush with just permanent death.

I think this is sufficient information to prove that you are not in fact hardcore, by the definition of GGG. You are welcome to play on ambush, but don't complain that Invasion is harder. It is suppose to be.
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