Hardcore League: Templar GOD Build

Freshbrewed: If you want to little bit increase DPS remove +8% mace damage and take +4% damage and +2%speed. (little increase but every drop count :-)))) )

Speed is much more viable than mace damage becase in your case where you have a huge bonus to damage, every other damage bonus have lower and lower impact.

I put everything from your build into "my calculator", but it seems that otherwise your build is perfect and there is nothing to change... (I tried to change it but all other possibilities lead to worse result :-))) the only point is one from above).

maybe this will be helpfull:
In your current build 10% attack speed increase = 40% mace damage increase (roughly)

for Others: I am running 2 handed build (nearly the same as yours, with little changes). Finally without iron grip and with shock...

Damage output is aproximately 30 - 35% higher. (based on my calculators)
but I have worse survivability (less armor and no block chance). But you have 40% stronger life leech which help a lot, but I would advice it for hardcore. You are more vulnarable to spike damage.

you can decrease damage output so its let say 20 - 25% higher and you will have huge armor, which is also possible solution. But you will still dont have a block.

Or final possibility is to take staff instead of Mace. You will have a block chance, damage increase compared to 1 hand will be 20 - 25%.

So there is more possibilities how to play this build.....

For Hardcore Shield is probably safest solution or 2 hand (staff or mace with armor) but you must be careful and in case of any problem quickly leap away otherwise you can die even with your huge life leech.

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BrockSamsonV wrote:

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Im really not sure if this build is intended for merciless?

I am level 69 atm and solo is almost impossible unless you run around like an idiot for 10 minutes kiting mobs.

I got 2.5k life and 2.3k dps and im dying so fast it is not even funny.

Block is around 50% but archers still rape me , cant tank shit for more than 3 seconds.

I am really wondering if anyone else is having the same issues.

I play Hardcore, am now 72 running maps (lvl 66-69) without a problem. Have solo'd virtually everything. Maybe post more information, and we can give some advice.

Well there is not much else to say.

Mobs hit REALLY hard (chaos is kinda impossible in groups) and even with 80% resistance to an element i still get hit like a truck ( freaking dogs in Docks) .

For passives i went full defensive (dont even have chance to shock yet) with life resistances and life regen.

Thats whats bugging me most. I went for most shield block,life,armor ,res mods and still die so easy...

Maybe i need better gear but dunno if it will make much difference :/ .

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Losse wrote:

Some stranger gave this to me early, gotta love this community. Should I increase the quality to 20 with whetstones or just wait for better? I am level 35 and its my first character. Nothing comes close to the DPS on this thing that I find but I know I will probably need more gems slots later so maybe don't improve it? :(

I also have to wear a 21 int item to use it...

Spoiler

Lucky bastard aha. But speaking of upgrading or not. Id do it, i probably only found a comparable mace to yours at lvl 46..... so yeah. And tbh i didnt even find it, i got ridicolously lucky. Got 3 sockets onto it, linked. And on the first try increased physical damage. But yeah upgrade it for sure, it will last long unless you find unique or buy one.

EDIT: At around level 40 you will find tons of items with 3 red sockets linked. So dont be afraid to not upgrade it because of that.

Thank you Aiers and BrockSamsonV for wonderful answers.


I was in fever for 3 and a half days, was a nightmare..Still tried to answer on some PMs though.


I'm glad people are working out fine, some have minor problems whereas others enjoy the build :)



@Antarian

I thought the option for too long, I basically had it selected at first but then switched it off and then later got it back and then took it off 'cause I just couldn't decide, haha.

But thanks for the calculations, it's great to hear the pure theoretical build stands out perfectly. ( I did not use any calculations while I was making this build, just a little bit comparing haha) :)

Build is updated!

Freshbrewed: you was really great in it ... I dont have much to say :-) I try hard to change it any how ... but really didnt find anything that that one point :-))))

Even Iron grip doesnt worth it ... its just 20% damage increase and only for lightning strike projectiles. (it doesnt worth, because on the way there you will lost other skills which will in the end provide you similar amount to everything)

I even try to go for duelist talents but it lead to nearly the same result ... "really very similar numbers but still worse :-)"

If you did it without anything I bow to you :-) (I must made a calculator to count exact numbers :-)))) I like exact numbers :-) I work as an analyst so nothing is better than do it when I am in the office and everyone is think that I work hard, instead of that I am prepairing calculators for path of exile LOL :-D )

But really the only other possible choices is go with 2 hand which can grant you nice DPS boost but you will lost survivability.

The another key thing is to never take slow weapons. With slow weapons its nearly unplayable. (never take weapons with speed 1.0). The tooltip saying the same but in case of really quick attacks I am able to create the wawe of lightning ...... and I am feeling like a gandalf ...... when he said ...... "YOOOOU SHALL NOT PASSSS". With slow weapons I am not able to do it and mobs start attacking me and ..... I am just trying to kite them and with slow attacks its nearly impossible too. This is thing which no calculator show ....

BTW: currently I have 3500 DPS just on my glacial hammer:-) (level 48 and I even didnt take lot of damage passives - only elemental ones + ones from the templar start + berserk)

maybe one more note ... with good equip you will be able to max elemental ressist on +80 even with -60 and you wont need that +30% bonus from shield, so you will be able to use this points somewhere else ....

but with that bonus you are safe and you can focus on everything else.... (this part is really about current equip and you can change it whenever you want just with few regret orbs)

Haha aww, thanks ^^

I'm flattered :) Haven't heard such a good feedback for ages!

I started to think how common sense plays an important role in every aspect of gaming. Calculations are needed only to PROVE what you are PROVIDING :D

Iron Grip is really frustrating word I hear in my thead. People come over and think it should be used and that some other points in my build should be taken away to get to Iron Grip.
While suggesting is totally okay, I admire how much people fall in that illusion trap made by Iron Grip. I had to provide my mate's calculations to prove my valid points that Iron Grip is not totally okay to waste points on, the damage return is nothing compared to the other possibilities we'll achieve by spending the needed skill points.

Hahahaha made my day x) Go anatarian, the great PoE analyst!

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgUAhMQFW0Ryi4yKdOFzD1TtIKloRtcUTQSzogDwHzKJAnF35Vfi7Dg62Bo4TdinhIx2kFXAGmaeWfNUkXFN-tKsqprPHRQ26XKpJ-1DY49GJKrjanzZ9zLE9vPdGS63MdDQdu7468QV1I9Y9Zuhz2VEskGqSi653WebncRnvVXGqRoUcblD8i_vDiku7m8OPKcwp6V8uDpSns33vhQgPfzfv4ZgVbVQR1hjVgTqGFBQxthhUu4U3D2Mz5_LYIgyCaCdIVX2SCi1nCc5Dl8_705dAECgBS3EWGBLJ9V673Tt

With something like this you will have I would say not much worse survivability and aproximately 15% DPS than in your build....

this is simply something between.

There is increased armor together with ressists and it should be enough to have max a ressists...

you will have some block chance (aproximately 25%) and 15% - 25% increased DPS in comparison to one hand mace and shield... Armor should be similar thanks to the additional armor nodes in this build, but it will be maybe still little bit lower.

Pretty similar I would say ...

ps. I even tried to do dual wield build but its ... ********* :-D DPS bonus is low, and lost in survivability is high ... so staff is better option if I want some block.

freshbrewed: Iron grip isnt as bad options... at first I also think that its the only possibility, but then I started counting even thanks to you :-)))))

and 20% damage increase (real increase) for projectile part of lightning strike is not enough (its 80% bonus to damage but in reality when you will take in account other bonuses its just 20% in real output)

So if you are able to put at least 40% to damage nodes or even 10% to attack speed you will have half of that damage output but for all attacks.

and the "SHOCK" part ....... there its pretty easy to count it. Every hit in average will increase damage to target by 8% (and its just 3 points on your way, because you still need that health nodes)

Nothing else will give you 8% damage increase for every hit of target with LS... "NIIIIIICE" :-)))


To be honest I started because I want to prove that you are not correct hehehehe :-D But you were ... LOL.

the only other possibilities
- staff (something between)
- 2 hand mace (pure damage)

I even advice your build to my friends because I really like it, even though I have it little bit different ... because I like pure damage builds and rely more on life leech.

ps. sorry for SPAM :-) I maybe wrote .... too much :-D

Hello all, my guy is lvl 61. Just got to act 3 merci and went to sleep. My main question is what are some stats which I should be shooting for on my 1-h mace at level 70ish? I'm looking for exact numbers here so if people could post the weapon they have been successful with or lost some ball-park numbers I would greatly appreciate it! Also if you could include the approximate worth in chaos or gcp that would be great! I want to know how much currency I'll need to save up. Thanks!