[0.10.4b] Bow Marauder (The Shocker (tm)) [**TO BE UPDATED SOON 1.0.0**]

Yeah, if they work the way Venator described they are should be worth it, its just that to me, that should have been a "more" in the description in stead of an "increase" from my understanding of how they name multipliers :p. Im sure I'll do a little more math in my head before I actually respec, just because I already got talked out of that fork once before lol.


Also, yeah, just going over it in my head, Pierce should destroy chain for damage lol, not really sure how we missed that. Depending on mob clustering, it might be less "hits" for LoH return, but basically each arrow out damages its chain counter part as long as it pierces and hits 1 extra time. in a mob where each each arrow can hit 2 or 3 extra times with pierce its just a total blowout. Cost/arrow also goes way down, so it might actually be pretty feasible to go with a 5L of LA+LMP+Pierce+WE+FA and lose LoH, which was a little tricky with chain in there.

Well, I guess Chain does pull ahead in a few edge cases, like 2 enemies standing next to each other (pierce would hit each enemy with 1 arrow and 1 explosion, while Chain would hit each with 3 arrows and 3 explosions at "half" damage for an equivalent 1.5 arrows and explosions), but for that you can probably just single target anyway lol. As long as the mob is 2 or more rows deep, and you actually use projectile weakness instead of not bothering to curse (which is how i currently function lol) Pierce will win.

So on a bow I want more elemental damage vs. physical is that correct? With Anger and Hatred LA does like 260 DPS and im in act 2 Cruel...

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Gorgatron wrote:

So on a bow I want more elemental damage vs. physical is that correct? With Anger and Hatred LA does like 260 DPS and im in act 2 Cruel...

Yes, you want more elemental damage, but not just on the bow itself, yet on ALL of your equipment that you can possibly get it on. The more little elemental additions you can get, the better, but you'll start seeing EVEN MORE dividends from using Anger and Wrath. I'm just now in Act 1 Cruel and in Act 3, my DPS doubled after I started using them and leveling them up.

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morsdraconis wrote:

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Gorgatron wrote:

So on a bow I want more elemental damage vs. physical is that correct? With Anger and Hatred LA does like 260 DPS and im in act 2 Cruel...

Yes, you want more elemental damage, but not just on the bow itself, yet on ALL of your equipment that you can possibly get it on. The more little elemental additions you can get, the better, but you'll start seeing EVEN MORE dividends from using Anger and Wrath. I'm just now in Act 1 Cruel and in Act 3, my DPS doubled after I started using them and leveling them up.

OK, I forgot I have wrath too and my dps on LA is 263.3. I only have weapon elemental on LA atm so I wanted to check where I'm at.

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Gorgatron wrote:

So on a bow I want more elemental damage vs. physical is that correct? With Anger and Hatred LA does like 260 DPS and im in act 2 Cruel...

to a certain point.

Bow A:


Bow B:



'Bow A' has double the ele dmg and a little faster attack than Bow B.
But Bow B has 15% higher DPS because it has 3x more phy dmg.

unfortunately, i have to use Bow A due to sockets. i'm using 19 gems and there's no bows i could find that are 152dex or less that are 3L RBB :(

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Pi314 wrote:

unfortunately, i have to use Bow A due to sockets. i'm using 19 gems and there's no bows i could find that are 152dex or less that are 3L RBB :(

Yeah, I'm stuck using this chest piece because I can't find another 2S/2D 4L item:



Really need to get more alchs, but man alive are they hard to come by early. :)

Figured I would post these two builds here for a quick once over from the other contributors.

Current Build I am using:



More "fragile" higher damage build I will compare it too:


Fragile one might be a little too light on hp/def, but my resistances should still be capped using my current gear (might need to redirect one node to a light res node...), and I want to make a viable glass cannon build since every says it cant be done lol. Might drop unwavering to do it since I didn't take IR so i might not want to give up my evade...





At this point, even if the second build sucks I dont think I can complain too much, over the course of normal he has found 5 alchs, 2 chaos, and a 117% deaths harp lol. Doesnt take too long either when you finish normal with a 950dps frenzy and a 650dps split arrow >.>



To Morsdraconis: Are you on the US server, I am pretty sure I still have a bunch of 4L armors floating around that are better than that if you are on the US server, I need to make space and would gladly let one go for an alch, shoot me a pm or something and I can dig them up and show you :p

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VenatorPoE wrote:

Somebody asked for a high level version of this build I have in mind. That covers it, pretty much. Auras used: Anger, Vitality, Grace, Haste, Purity, Wrath.


By the way, Xendran, would you mind linking me to your build? You generally just pop in randomly at times, leave some semi-disrespectful answer, yet provide no input of real value usually. I would like to see what a more experienced player came up with, because it will help me improve both my build and my game.

EDIT: Found it. Link
EDIT 2: Funny; apparently I saw it before. I guess I have issues connecting names...

so you are ready to drop blood magic?

Any conclusion about inner force yet?
I have to decide between "more into ranger" and inner force now :(

Furthermore:

LMP vs. GmP
anyone tested both at level 10+? Is GMP worth it?

(Maybe for docks farming with that huge packs?)

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return33 wrote:

Any conclusion about inner force yet?
I have to decide between "more into ranger" and inner force now :(

Furthermore:

LMP vs. GmP
anyone tested both at level 10+? Is GMP worth it?

(Maybe for docks farming with that huge packs?)

LMP is superior with LA. I've tried a few builds and LMP always comes out on top, and you're not wasting huge amounts of HP.