Single player offline version

it would be pointless to do a sp version. they want people to see other characters and go "wow look at him i am gonna go buy that now" if you are playing single player you are not interacting with others which lowers your chances to impulse buy

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Apocalypse23x wrote:

it would be pointless to do a sp version. they want people to see other characters and go "wow look at him i am gonna go buy that now" if you are playing single player you are not interacting with others which lowers your chances to impulse buy

Yep. Microtransactions and single player don't go well together.

Well if you think about it... Why would you want offline play? What does it get you when you can play single player pretty much anyway. All adding offline mode will do is cut player numbers out of the online play. So the people online have less people to play with. Im sure at some point too that you will wish that offline character was online so you could actually play with others. Theres no actual benefit to playing offline unless you want to cheat.Also yes micro transactions and offline dont mix so GGG would lose money out of this..

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Rustychops wrote:

(...)Theres no actual benefit to playing offline unless you want to cheat.Also yes micro transactions and offline dont mix so GGG would lose money out of this..

Well I don't see why cheating is a benefit... Gaming was born offline. And people were not cheating. By the way, people can also cheat online. So the cheating reason is rather weak in my eyes.

Also, I see the off-line as a payware option so GGG would actually gain from it not only from actual money needed for activation of the option, but also because it would attract more people around the game. These people would certainly benefit from the free online option and ... GGG would be in advantage.

Think Starcraft online/offline modes. Think how Company of Heroes went from traditional single-player/multi-player to micro-transactions. Or, coming closer to the genre, look how Torchlight has created a huge fan-base for the future MMO with only single-player (presently Torchlight does not even have LAN!!). Are these people cheaters just because they enjoy offline!? Do these games hurt their own/future online option? I don't think so. I say they are doing exactly the opposite and hook more and more people towards the natural free online option.

And the benefit for me was (as I wrote previously) when there is NO internet connection (some of you may not believe this, but it is real! I have seen it :)) - many times). As the game is free, of course I would go 90% of the time online. But there are ALWAYS (at least for me) moments when there is no internet connection available. Nada. Nothing. Keine. Usually in such moments I also have a lot of free time that I spend in offline SP. Path of Exile would only gain if I am able to enjoy it even offline in detriment of other titles (this is a war, and for GGG it is worth fighting).

I think PoE really deserves attention and that the people making it are doing something many of us have wished to see come true. I mean just look at the atmosphere. At the same time I have seen that many success stories were based on player input. So in my view our input is important. I am not speaking for others, just for myself. But if others understand my point and desire the same thing maybe this can lead to something. There is offline SP out there and I've paid for it and I'm glad I did it. I would and will certainly do it again. PoE would be a prime candidate for that ;)

Unfortunately, if there is a way to unlock a single player mode then someone will have a crack out for it pretty quick and GGG will lose money.

I dunno, if you don't have an internet connection then maybe you should have another game lined up to play. Hoyle Cards or something.

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FruitLord wrote:

...someone will have a crack out for it pretty quick and GGG will lose money.

PoE is free anyway as we speak... Also, because of the cracks you speak of, I was suggesting only a limited features kind of off-line. Cracks can not circumvent that. And by the way, what you suggest is something like: GGG should not take these money from you because others won't pay. Erm,... why is that? I suppose little is better than nothing.

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FruitLord wrote:

... if you don't have an internet connection then maybe you should have another game lined up to play. Hoyle Cards or something.

No need for Hoyle. I have Torchlight and soon Torchlight 2 and Diablo 3 and so on...

Anyway, I've turned things on all sides I suppose I'll end it here.

Guess you haven't heard of World of Warcraft private servers..

Instead people go make private servers of PoE and sell items and make money instead of GGG.
People have cracked SC2 because of offline mode by the way.

Offline mode is major threat to online game security. In order to make offline version working same as online one, Devs must give all important server-side stuff to players.

If I'm Dev, I would never ever do it, even at cost of closing the business.

Iron Lore the developer of the Titan Quest series employees formed a company called Crate Entertainment, which is developing a new game called Grim Dawn, just an fyi.

Made by the titan quest guys in their spare time as a FYI. So im pretty sure they arn't too fussed about making money off it.Also its made for single player.