[1.2] THE KNOCKBACK REAVER (CASCADING REAVE STACKS WITH KNOCKBACK)

I really like the combo of reave + knockback + incr aoe. What do you think of the build below?

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgIAm42v6wguAtDbVXSu0354rkjuG6094gOHt9OVZtfLGtv5Y-4OFfBW-jpYBfn8xQR-o4pnoLcX3Q2HGZsmh3Y4lluvMgHo1kp9TiqyGd72tkEppc962j3ndGqTJ2Fh4tXtBumH28APCSGmfxa_0k3tQb6nsbNuabVIhNlte1jbZU1VS1PfR34mlZuDrK-rxYTv55G9gWEhdO3DhpkrGlVkozbor6IB5zpSWK8Q8CSbDjx4DYCKn8sUcalu903467XyFz5sRio4divqGP-wNZJybPcyBOT-j4jxMglyqXXQGJFN43zZplcxng==

Biggest issues (so far i can tell):
-Mana for skills (no soultaker), not sure if this build even works like this.
-Gems to link: Reave + incr aoe + knockback + multi + incr phys + life leech and then i don't even have mana leech ( which i think will be req. ).
-In doubt between swords or daggers for endgame \ best nodes.

Edit:
Or perhaps this, giving up RT/Fending/Bloodless for mana leech + block node in top right:

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgIAm42v6wguAtDbVXSu0354rkjuG6094gOHt9OVZtfLGtv5Y-4OFfBW-jpYBfn8xQR-o4pnoLcX3Q2HGZsmh3Y4lluvMgHo1kp9TiqyGd72tkEppc962j3ndGqTJ2Fh4tXtBumH28APCSGmfxa_0k3tQb6nsbNuabVIhNlte1jbZU1VS1PfR34mlZuDrK-rxYTv55G9gWEhdO3DhpkrGlVkozbor6IB5zpSWK8Q8CSbDjx4DYCKn8upbvdNtfIXPmxGKjh2KzWScmz-j4jxMglN46ZXMZ42PYhr44QOSKc0Y0Py4cLsHoFLjf8c
Last edited by foojin#2576 on Mar 7, 2014, 2:03:24 PM
Definitely go with the second tree.
Fending is really not worth it if you have the knockback gem.... and you MUST use the knockback gem (i.e. fending alone is not remotely sufficient for reliably proc'ing knockback).

Mind drinker is mandatory. For PvE, 2% leech is more than enough. Remember, you should be at around 10-15k physical damage (that's the bare minimum). As such, you will ALWAYS be at your mana leech cap.

Consider using Clarity.
If you're chaos inoc, you should be wearing Dream Fragments (which have mana regen).
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Thanks for the pointers, made some adjustments:

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgIAm42v6wguAtDbVXSu0354rkjuG6094gOHt9OVZtfLGtv5Y-4OFfAj9lb6OlgF-e_w_MUEfqOKWkhnoLcX3Q2HGZsmh3Y4lluvMgHo1kp9TioY27IZ3va2QSmldPHPeto953Rqk9RSJ2Fh4jY91e0G7gbph9uIa8APl3AJIaZ_Fr_jhNJNYxftQQ5Ivqexs6c0bmm1SITZbXtY22VNVUtT30d-JpWbg6yvq8WE7-eRvYFhIXTtw4aZKxpVZKM26K-iAec6UlivEPAkmw48eA2Aip_LqW73TRc-bEYqOHYrcmxBdDIJwQRfP_MGoLT7quRR

- Added sword cluster in the bottom
- Added left top side (maurader area), few bigger nodes in the tree that seemed to easy to get to pass on
- Removed Block cluster in right top (nodes mentioned above here give some block)
- Removed scion health wheel (but some others to compensate)

Problems:
- 120 points, need to loose 3 nodes (bec. bandits quest rewards seem to good to pass)
- Health or dmg side in the duelist tree (to duelist starting point)

Got some more feedback on how strong this build is compared to other reave builds, and perhaps your own? Or how this fares with no evasion but relying on armor\block\health? And is daggers better or? 75+ maps viable?

Pve build, non HC.
Last edited by foojin#2576 on Mar 7, 2014, 2:49:44 PM
All good changes.
With this build, you can afford to lower your defense because your offense (i.e. knockback) IS your defense.

The best defense for this build is Attack Speed + Accuracy.
Why? because you will be knocking everything dafuq away.

Swords = PVP
Daggers = PVE

Dagger Crit > Sword Crit
Full Crit > Full physical dps

Another trick to up your survivability is to use the CWDT with enduring cry and immortal call. That should protect you against strays that occasionally bypass your reaving zone.
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It's a shame daggers seem to be better for PVE because all the nodes picked are close to sword nodes. It seems impossible to build the same with dagger spec.

Btw i'll probably drop some block nodes, not sure what the perfect amount of +block from nodes is (to get to the cap with a shield). If these was just a way to not req. minddrinker i would have 5 more points...

Dream build without minddrinker:

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgIAm42v6wguAtDbVXSu0354rkjuG6094gOHt9OVZtfLGtv5Y-4OFfCj5yP2Vvo6WAX5y_Xv8PzFBH6jijGwWkhnoLcX3Q2HGZsm5w-HdjiWW68yAejWSn1OKhjbshne9rZBKaV08c962j3ndGqT1FInYWHi1e0G7ofbwA-XcKZ_Fr_STWMX7UG-p7Gzbmm1SITZbXtY22VNVUtT30d-JpWbg6yvq8WE7-eRvYFhIXTtw4aZKxpVZKM26K-iAec6UlivEPAkmw48eA2Aip_LqW73TRc-bEYqOHYrcmxBdDIJwQRfP_MGoLT7quRR

Edit: also you can never make it work with BoR because of the amount of gems you need with this skill \ build. I really dislike BoR, it's just so strong \ default melee item.
Last edited by foojin#2576 on Mar 7, 2014, 3:32:40 PM
Castablanca and foojin, thanks for discussing the life-based version. Itching to see your follow-up in doing 75+ maps, foojin.
Hello
Thanks for the Guide
The build looks really cool

I haven't had much luck with shadow builds, maybe it could work with something like this, in a dagger crit shadow?

Spoiler
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYABX0FtQ48DkgQexEvEZYV1xa_GYYZ1R4aKCoqOCpNKwosvy9vMFQwfDIJMww26DpSPydKyFBCUUdTNVZjVupW9VivY0NsRm1sbqpwUnBWcLtw1XJsdYp4DX3jfyt_xoauh9uIQow2jb-QG5fQmVeZmpoTm7Wdo5_Loi6mf6c0qW6sR7GztMW1SLXytve5Pr46wFHBAMHFwuzDOsNtykrWiteG2RPbGttu29TjhOn-6yzrY-wY7UHy4fPq9Uv8q_-T_94=


And, could this build be done in the new leagues ( Atleast, without Soultaker for some time)

Thanks :D
Last edited by DreamE#6651 on Mar 8, 2014, 12:36:41 AM
Casta Blanca, I'm new here, I really liked your build. It is viable for players just starting out? You could do a step by step of the tree of skills, Example: First 20 points, 40 points first, first 60 points, 80 points of the tree. Thanks!
Last edited by ravifreire#5411 on Mar 8, 2014, 8:58:12 AM
Tweaked it a bit more, can someone tell me if this build will ever work?

It uses swords (phys dmg), has life \ evasion \ block (shield) for defence.

Problems:
- How do i get life leech?
- Mana for reave?
- No int nodes
- To much gems i need for reave. I guess top level would be a BOR with Reave/MS/Knockback/... and then life \ mana \ incr aoe \ conc effect or so.
- Do passive life regen nodes work with VP and does the build even need VP?

Build:
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgIAm42v6wguAtDbVXSu0354rkjuG6094gOHt9OVZtfLGtv5Y-4OFfCj5yP2Vvo6WAX5y_Xv8PzFBH6jijGwWkhnoLcX3Q2HGZsm5w-HdjiWW68yAejWSn0Y27IZ3vbN6nTxz3rndAW1IWDUUmHi1CNAoAbuh9vdqAUtl3Cmfxa_xqJgS2MX7UEwcXrvsbNLeHTttUg6QoTvbXthIZuDVUsaVVPfJpVko1jbrK826ITZr6IB5zpSWK9uaWVNEPAkmw48eA2-p0d-gIqfy6lu0k2rxfdNFz4qOMAPvYF2K5krQXTBBF8_8wagtPuq5FE=

Edit, changed it a bit (now 'only' 105 points, depending on needs it can go VP or acrobatics etc. / mind drinker / RT). Also optimized some nodes, and it's duelist start now.

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgQBAecDhwR-BS0F-QbuDjwQ8BXwFr8Y2xpVGtsbrSFgI_YkmyXfJpUyATQ1Nug4ljpSOlg94kCgQXRHfkjuSn1T31VLVvpY21pIW69fP2BLYSFh4mMXZKNlTWegbXtuaXTtdPF2K3iueu-AioTZhO-HGYd2h9uLT5B0lWaXcJkrmyabg565n8ugtKOKpn-rxayvr6Kxs7IZtUi3F7fTvYG-p8APwQTBB8OGz3rSTdN-1FLXftfL3Q3e9uRR53Tnkeeu6NbtQe4O7_DzBvdN-WP7qvzF
Last edited by foojin#2576 on Mar 8, 2014, 2:37:58 PM
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foojin wrote:
Tweaked it a bit more, can someone tell me if this build will ever work?

It uses swords (phys dmg), has life \ evasion \ block (shield) for defence.

Problems:
- How do i get life leech?
- Mana for reave?
- No int nodes
- To much gems i need for reave. I guess top level would be a BOR with Reave/MS/Knockback/... and then life \ mana \ incr aoe \ conc effect or so.
- Do passive life regen nodes work with VP and does the build even need VP?

Build:
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgIAm42v6wguAtDbVXSu0354rkjuG6094gOHt9OVZtfLGtv5Y-4OFfCj5yP2Vvo6WAX5y_Xv8PzFBH6jijGwWkhnoLcX3Q2HGZsm5w-HdjiWW68yAejWSn0Y27IZ3vbN6nTxz3rndAW1IWDUUmHi1CNAoAbuh9vdqAUtl3Cmfxa_xqJgS2MX7UEwcXrvsbNLeHTttUg6QoTvbXthIZuDVUsaVVPfJpVko1jbrK826ITZr6IB5zpSWK9uaWVNEPAkmw48eA2-p0d-gIqfy6lu0k2rxfdNFz4qOMAPvYF2K5krQXTBBF8_8wagtPuq5FE=

Edit, changed it a bit (now 'only' 105 points, depending on needs it can go VP or acrobatics etc. / mind drinker / RT). Also optimized some nodes, and it's duelist start now.

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgQBAecDhwR-BS0F-QbuDjwQ8BXwFr8Y2xpVGtsbrSFgI_YkmyXfJpUyATQ1Nug4ljpSOlg94kCgQXRHfkjuSn1T31VLVvpY21pIW69fP2BLYSFh4mMXZKNlTWegbXtuaXTtdPF2K3iueu-AioTZhO-HGYd2h9uLT5B0lWaXcJkrmyabg565n8ugtKOKpn-rxayvr6Kxs7IZtUi3F7fTvYG-p8APwQTBB8OGz3rSTdN-1FLXftfL3Q3e9uRR53Tnkeeu6NbtQe4O7_DzBvdN-WP7qvzF


EXCELLENT CHANGES!
life leech = blood rage
mana = mind drinker
BEST DEFENSE = GREATER OFFENSE
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