[1.2] Whaitiri's HC-viable CI Aegis Incinerator

Let me know how Arc worked for you :)

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There will be a full respec with 1.2 i guess, waiting for it too, got a few mroe builds in mind i'd like to test :D

Hi Enki,

I think Arc works quite well. One of the "drawbacks" of molten shell is that nothing happens to ranged attackers. it's really fun to see something attacking from range getting zapped, and a bunch of stuff around it too. connect elemental proliferation, and I often find that i'm attacking a shock stacked mob.

meanwhile molten shell is just amazing. i've gotten stun-locked and everything around me will die because molten shell is going off.

I got a very nice Alpha's Howl as a drop. I was _very_ tempted to sell it and get my aegis aurora, but i kept it. I bought myself a decent 5L to make up for the loss of ES in my helm and now my grace and discipline, and VAAL HASTE get +2. also because of the aura reduction i should be able to drop 1 or 2 aura reduction nodes which is very nice. so i think it's quite a strong combination (i'm at 5.6k ES and 10k armor).

I can't get the colors i need which has kind of screwed up my slotting, so right now i'm using CwS/IC/EC/MS. So no more arc :-( I'll need to roll RBBG on my alpha's and that's not going to be easy.

Molten shell is definitely better than arc. However the set-up i was running was CwS/MS/arc/elemental prolif and that is a fantastic set-up. close-in and ranged attackers get damaged. i'll be able to get back to it with the right colors on alpha's, or i might give up something else to get it back.

meanwhile, this is what uncle dom dropped for me while I was in a split-run group.



so it looks like maybe i can try the RF/flame surge build after all.

my short-term goal is to 5L and run incinerate with this build. it should help my damage :-)

my real problem is that i have to at least 5L it. i'm doing Dom runs every night building up jewelers and fuses. it's a good problem to have :-)

Grats, looks like your RNG got a lucky streak atm! I would definitely try to 6s the shavs first, better chance to hit 5l and you may even get it 6l :P

The Ms/Arc setup sounds best, but will you still have space for EC+IC+Inc Duration in your gear?

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Enki91 wrote:

Grats, looks like your RNG got a lucky streak atm! I would definitely try to 6s the shavs first, better chance to hit 5l and you may even get it 6l :P

The Ms/Arc setup sounds best, but will you still have space for EC+IC+Inc Duration in your gear?

yes, RNGods have blessed me. those are the two most valuable drops i have ever seen since i started playing (with the exception of 993 FB. They don't count- they were only valuable once they became legacy).

my current problem is the alpha's colors which are RBGG. i have to put clarity and reduced mana into boots. i think that i can shuffle things around and get cws/arc/elem prolif back again.

no way can i give up EC/IC/ID, it's much too valuable.

so to summarise, what i think i can do is this :

CwS/EC/IC/MS
CwS/ARC/prolif

which, as you said, is not as ideal as,

CwS/EC/IC/ID
CwS/MS/ARC/prolif

but in practice i find that without the ID, there is no problem thanks to IR/grace, especially now that i have grace and discpline with +2 gem level. i think that alpha's is really good for this build.

As i said, if i could roll RBBG on the alpha's i'd be set. but i've used 3 stacks of chromes, so i'm afraid to try anymore...


meanwhile, many people have advised me to 6S the Shav's first. i'm having a terrible time buying jewelers, so i run Dom a lot. That's good because i'm testing out these different gem combinations along the way. however testing means sometimes things don't go well so right now I stay at 0 exp. LOL.

I just implemented

CwS/arc/elem prolif

and did a _lot_ of Dom runs (trying to put together fuses). one very key item i have is this,



really, Enki, it's quite effective. Imagine my surprise when i started seeing shock status on Dom.

mobs get shocked on a regular basis. what's particularly satisfying is how this helps with voidbear packs.

voidbears can often stun me, especially if they have nasty mods on them. They are the only thing in SoG that ever kills me- I actually get stunlocked ! arc will decimate them.
It almost always kills them outright, but if it doesn't, it applies shock and then I can finish them off with ease.

i'm definitely able to run SoG with less trouble (i'm speed running and not being careful) with that configuration in place, and obviously that wand is quite key. imagine how strong it will be when arc is level 20. the other thing i've noticed is that the wand made my incinerate stronger even though it has less spell damage than the one i was using thanks to that lightning damage bonus.

and of course CwS/MS/IC/EC is still very strong.

finally, vaal haste. much wow :-) i don't even have it leveled up and it's making that 1st form Dom fight much faster :-)

p.s. the Shav's is now 6S. took me about 300 jewelers. i don't think that's too bad, i'm pretty sure it could have been much worse...

Sounds good, will have a look into this soon and update the guide.
Oh and grats on hitting 6s on Shavs, now time to get it 5/6L :D

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Enki91 wrote:

Oh and grats on hitting 6s on Shavs, now time to get it 5/6L :D

done :-) "only" a 5L. took me about 140 fuses. now i'm a low-life incinerator build. WOW. As they say, a good offense is the best defense. Aegis would be nice to have, but at this point I think it's completely optional. We will see when I get back to maps and start visiting the harder bosses.

My current skill tree is almost identical to what you recommend.

i think that i will give up the alphas's howl.

the +2 bonus for aura's is nice, but i would rather have the helm ES back (and maybe be able to get an aegis - i still want to try it).

also dream fragments is very useful ! that 20% mana increase _really_ helps. this is something i did not appreciate until i turned on haste, and now i run out of mana again.

i couldn't figure out why and then i realize that my mana was down to about 1100. so it looks like to fully support an "accelerated" incinerate you really need 1300+ mana. i have _very_ high regen, and i cannot keep up with only 1100 mana. and i'm only using a 5L without faster casting !

i continue to do more Dom runs, and i'm even more enthusiastic about CwS/arc/prolif than i was. make no mistake, it works because of the recent arc buff. should GGG change their mind again (always possible unfortunately) it would no longer be useful.

CwS is one of the best reasons there is to go CI :-)

Grats! You are right about the mana part, i used to have 1.6k at one point to support 6L Incinerate.

You could switch Alphas with a Vertex, great helmet for low life casters. And if you wanna get RF into there, you'll have to use RotP. All in all, that would bump Incinerate to around 10k tooltip DPS :)

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Enki91 wrote:

Grats! You are right about the mana part, i used to have 1.6k at one point to support 6L Incinerate.

You could switch Alphas with a Vertex, great helmet for low life casters. And if you wanna get RF into there, you'll have to use RotP. All in all, that would bump Incinerate to around 10k tooltip DPS :)

yes- vertex is amazing to be sure.

oh how i would love to enable RF !

however i burned, pun intended, all but 30 chaos trying to socket and link the shav's.

and i think that i would need a very large number of regrets to shift the tree to use RF. the first thing i did when i hit the 5L was look at your flame surge build :-)

i think it's at least 40 regrets + the phoenix.

at the rate i'm farming Dom it's entirely possible i could do that in 2 weeks or so.

I am going to start working towards it. i can do it !

Updated and rewritten the guide based on feedback and experiences i made ingame.
Hope this version is easier to read and understand, please let me know if i should add anything or explain further in the guide!