[1.0.6] Lunys' LA / Frenzy High End Crit Ranger GUIDE (in-depth analysis) 3 VIDEOS

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Nephalim wrote:

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Aerinqq wrote:

I am closely reading every single post in this thread, I was hoping someone will start discussion like this.

I am currently using LA crit ranger (legacy kaoms, voltaxic, thunderfists, no vaal pact, 2 auras) and my DPS is absolutely horrible so I am trying to find out which way should I respec.

1) keep the Life based build and get VP + mirrored bow, essentially same build as Lunys

2) switch to full EVA (6L high eva chest instead kaoms) which would obviously grant more frenzy DPS (then another variation either use Voltax or get pDPS bow + VP)

3) completely transition to CI, get high ES or even better high ES/EVA 6L chest, mirrored bow + Vaal pact is obvious choice here, kinda worry about mana cost though since that would be mana based build, not even sure if sustainable with chain...essentially the build Cloud posted but with LA and preferably ES/EVA hybrid would seem a bit better to me

4) or another ES variation I am thinking about the most recently, go Shavrones Wrapping, go low life, that way if you take mana red. nodes u can go 4 auras at once + u get huge AS benefit from blood rage...obviously that build would have the most potential solo DPS, problem of relatively low ES on Shavs would be compensated with self discipline aura....I saw a guy running this build, 60K frenzy, 21K LA (with auras and charges but only with 5L Lioneyes linked with frenzy), 4.5K ES, 9K eva...

for those who TLDR, can anyone experienced or anyone who tried some of those build variations could comment which approach is the best in terms of survivability and DPS? Life based vs life EVA based vs CI ES vs CI low life in other words

Ive been theorycrafting this with one of my guildmates for a week now and I cant still decide which way to go:(

any help appreciated

I believe there is a build thread for each variant you are wanting. Most threads of screenshots of stats as well.

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2) switch to full EVA (6L high eva chest instead kaoms) which would obviously grant more frenzy DPS (then another variation either use Voltax or get pDPS bow + VP)

This is not at all an option. single target dps isnt that important in groups.

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So do I understand it correctly that you saying kaoms+thunderfists better then to go full EVA?

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Nephalim wrote:

Not to detract from the thread but here is my version of the LA build:
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/723692

You are familiar with blas build and as for CI bow build im sure theres one somewhere.

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So do I understand it correctly that you saying kaoms+thunderfists better then to go full EVA?

Correct. I have used acrobatics+ondars+heart of the oak and found to be far superior to US+IR assuming you are not trying to face tank a pack of rhoas in a vulnerability map.

eva armor doesnt protect you from ele dmg and you will never make up the life loss.

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Aerinqq wrote:

About the EVA vs Armour, I am still very confused about what you said, first you mentioned that AR + Kaoms is better then immediately after you said that you found ondars guile + acrobatics superior to IR + US which kinda contradicts to your previous statement as going evasion build with Kaoms heart doesnt make sense to me.

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Nephalim wrote:

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Aerinqq wrote:

About the EVA vs Armour, I am still very confused about what you said, first you mentioned that AR + Kaoms is better then immediately after you said that you found ondars guile + acrobatics superior to IR + US which kinda contradicts to your previous statement as going evasion build with Kaoms heart doesnt make sense to me.

Where did i mention US+IR + koams was better? I have played both and I found ondars + acrobatics to be better.

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Lunys wrote:

solo vid of this incoming.

@Aerinqq ill read through your posts later, maybe i can help you to solve some of your problems :)

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Aerinqq wrote:

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Nephalim wrote:

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Aerinqq wrote:

About the EVA vs Armour, I am still very confused about what you said, first you mentioned that AR + Kaoms is better then immediately after you said that you found ondars guile + acrobatics superior to IR + US which kinda contradicts to your previous statement as going evasion build with Kaoms heart doesnt make sense to me.

Where did i mention US+IR + koams was better? I have played both and I found ondars + acrobatics to be better.

well you first said that going full EVA is not an option (as response to my question about build variations) and that kaoms + thunderfist is better (assuming there is no point in going thunderfist with full EVA build cos you use 6L and there is no point going EVA build with kaoms heart)...or you mean I should use ondars guile+acrobatics while using kaoms heart and dont use IR+US?

another thing I noticed in your guide you recommend thunderfists but you use maligaros yourself? also looking at your tree you dont use ondars but you use acrobatics?

maybe I am just missing something sry

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Aerinqq wrote:

ah ye now I understand, thanks.)

Is it sufficient to use just Heart of Oak instead IR? I remember Blast mentioned this in his guide that he rather took IR but I can assume this is due to him beeing rly high lvl where even the slightest chance that you die due to chain stun from rhoas/guards would be fatal and would costs 50ex orso and many hours of playtime..