[1.0.6] Lunys' LA / Frenzy High End Crit Ranger GUIDE (in-depth analysis) 3 VIDEOS

You guys really overestimate running auras yourself^^

Getting life leech on gear and replacing the life leech gem with a blood magic gem, works perfectly fine... but considering the amount of offensive stats you loose on your gear in order to get close to 8% life leech... of course it's a tooltip advantage if you play only solo.
But in reality you do not benefit from offensive auras in soloplay at all.

If you have only half as good gear as i do, you do not need auras for soloplay at all. Especially not offensive ones. Monster life when solo is so low... you overkill everything including most rares by 300% with one crit.

Even in a full party with zero auras your damage will be among the highest, if not the highest.
And the results you get when under the effect of someone elses auras, while not running any yourself... is just GODLIKE. As a ranged character, it is not hard to stay close to the people giving you these auras. So i'd prefer this over running auras myself... anyday.

It was said but I really like the build without the 4 points to blood magic and running auras w. a blood magic gem.
Auras give you some nice versatility for solo/group play.

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BudRoaster wrote:

It was said but I really like the build without the 4 points to blood magic and running auras w. a blood magic gem.
Auras give you some nice versatility for solo/group play.

Can you post more info? gear/DPS?

Sorry if my questions will sound noob, but I just started playing PoE a month ago, so I'm not that pro.
My second character is a ranger (still low level), so I'm curios about ranger builds.
I think yours is an interesting one, but I still have some concerns.
Since I have a philosophy of "never start a character over", I want to be successful for the first time with characters.
That's why I'm asking so many questions :)

Here we go:


Why did you choose BM? 6-linked lvl20 Ligntning Arrow has just a cost of ~101 mana, so it's not that bad if you have at least 2% mana leech. Maybe you could even afford an aura too.

Would this build be viable without vaals pact in endgame maps (75-78)? Even on double reflect maps?

Which one is better: 8% increased projectile damage or 15% increased damage with bow (for this build)?

Is Unwavering stance a "must" for a ranged char? How much does it affect the gameplay?

Wouldn't it be more beneficial to add Power charge on critical instead of faster attacks for Ligntning Arrow?

Would it be possible to maintain life leech from gear (10-14%) instead of gem? I know that gem is superior because leech applies to the whole damage, not just physical, but still... It would be nice to have even more dps with LA, right?



That's all for now. Of course I'm expecting answers and opinions from other fellow members too.

I'm going to attempt to answer these questions.

Why did you choose BM? 6-linked lvl20 Ligntning Arrow has just a cost of ~101 mana, so it's not that bad if you have at least 2% mana leech. Maybe you could even afford an aura too.

101 mana is just too high. Keep in mind mana leech is capped as well.

Would this build be viable without vaals pact in endgame maps (75-78)? Even on double reflect maps?

If you don't have vaal pact, you will kill yourself due to reflect mobs.

Which one is better: 8% increased projectile damage or 15% increased damage with bow (for this build)?

I'm not too sure about this one

Is Unwavering stance a "must" for a ranged char? How much does it affect the gameplay?

You could get unwavering stance or Ondar's Guile/Heart of the oak. Unwavering stance is probably the safer option though. Being stunned can get really annoying

Wouldn't it be more beneficial to add Power charge on critical instead of faster attacks for Ligntning Arrow?

It would further lower LA dps. You technically can, but you can also use frenzy to keep up charges

Would it be possible to maintain life leech from gear (10-14%) instead of gem? I know that gem is superior because leech applies to the whole damage, not just physical, but still... It would be nice to have even more dps with LA, right?

Yes, but you can only get a max of 12% from regular gear. This also makes gearing much more expensive, but yes it would work. Though, I feel it is better suited to split arrow as it is full physical.

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jtrand wrote:

I'm going to attempt to answer these questions.

Why did you choose BM? 6-linked lvl20 Ligntning Arrow has just a cost of ~101 mana, so it's not that bad if you have at least 2% mana leech. Maybe you could even afford an aura too.

101 mana is just too high. Keep in mind mana leech is capped as well.

Would this build be viable without vaals pact in endgame maps (75-78)? Even on double reflect maps?

If you don't have vaal pact, you will kill yourself due to reflect mobs.

Which one is better: 8% increased projectile damage or 15% increased damage with bow (for this build)?

I'm not too sure about this one

Is Unwavering stance a "must" for a ranged char? How much does it affect the gameplay?

You could get unwavering stance or Ondar's Guile/Heart of the oak. Unwavering stance is probably the safer option though. Being stunned can get really annoying

Wouldn't it be more beneficial to add Power charge on critical instead of faster attacks for Ligntning Arrow?

It would further lower LA dps. You technically can, but you can also use frenzy to keep up charges

Would it be possible to maintain life leech from gear (10-14%) instead of gem? I know that gem is superior because leech applies to the whole damage, not just physical, but still... It would be nice to have even more dps with LA, right?

Yes, but you can only get a max of 12% from regular gear. This also makes gearing much more expensive, but yes it would work. Though, I feel it is better suited to split arrow as it is full physical.

Hey, thanks for the reply.

Yes, I just realized in the meantime that 101 mana is too much _IF_ the attack/sec is 3.x.
That's more than 300 mana/sec in case of continuous attack. AFAIK mana recovery is capped at 12,5% of max mana, so it's not sustainable without BM or (instant) mana potions.

So are you saying there is only three options available to double reflect maps?
1.: Vaal's pact 2.: doing only 1 kind of damage (just physical, or just chaos) 3.: skipping the map

You said you can use frenzy to keep up charges, but I was talking about power charges, not frenzy.

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So are you saying there is only three options available to double reflect maps?
1.: Vaal's pact 2.: doing only 1 kind of damage (just physical, or just chaos) 3.: skipping the map

You said you can use frenzy to keep up charges, but I was talking about power charges, not frenzy.

For reflect maps, Vaal pact is a requirement - theres no other way unless you use Voltaxic. You could always skip the map, but the problem is even with maps with no reflect mods, there might still be mobs that have reflect just by chance.

And yeah frenzy linked to power charge on crit would grant power and frenzy charges.

jtrand actually did a pretty good job answering the question of MC_Grinda. so thanks for saving me time :P

@MC_Grinda : you could have found the answer to most of your question by simply reading the guide... and the answer to the remaining ones by checking the thread.

anyway... i'll update the FAQ section in a couple of days.
once i did this i will completely ignore any questions whose answers can be found in there.

Hi,
I am following your build, and I just want to ask a question. I have this Crit bow.

I want to choose between this bow and a decent Lioneye's Glare to 6 link. Which one should I use?

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jaff0950 wrote:

Hi,
I am following your build, and I just want to ask a question. I have this Crit bow.

I want to choose between this bow and a decent Lioneye's Glare to 6 link. Which one should I use?

The point of the build is to abuse harbringer's crit mod to stack your crit very very high. That's why frenzy is linked with power charge on crit, and why you get +2 pc from quest/passives and it's to use LA to smash through things.

Glare is a good bow just that it can't really deal with reflects unless you want to go vaal pact. The only problem with that is your damage just won't be comparable.

This build isn't really for the broke though it could be done but just do not expect the same damage as someone who uses a glyph mark.