The Frozen Dagger (ST/CoC - Self found, noob friendly) [Gameplay Videos]

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Juggla1570 wrote:
I did not look up ANYTHING about what I was doing previous to making this build. It is 100% mine from scratch. It evolved over time and is still evolving to this day. Any and all constructive criticism is welcome. Any and all flaming or stupidity will be ignored.

I need to steal this. XD
Gems finally starting to ding 20. GCPing a number of them. Will spend the next few days getting them all back up and then update my current stats and add suggestions for which are the most important to make quality.
Check out my Frozen Dagger build in the Shadow forums!!
Great build and great guide man, thanks a lot. I am running it atm lvl 59 with Ungil's ready and Voll's coming and totally 110% happy about this build.

My question is: is there any chance i can reforge it into MF build without loosing big chunk of DPS and this amazing look of firework master?

I read a lot of different guides including MF builds but i dont think i am "competent" enough to rebuild this one into MF variation without loosing something important. Maybe thats because i dont get MF builds' basics. ;)
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Student_Kutuzov wrote:
Great build and great guide man, thanks a lot. I am running it atm lvl 59 with Ungil's ready and Voll's coming and totally 110% happy about this build.

Thanks, I really appreciate that :D

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My question is: is there any chance i can reforge it into MF build without loosing big chunk of DPS and this amazing look of firework master?

I read a lot of different guides including MF builds but i dont think i am "competent" enough to rebuild this one into MF variation without loosing something important. Maybe thats because i dont get MF builds' basics. ;)


Well it would be difficult to turn this into an MF focused build that also has adequate clear speed in late maps. The problem is that this build focuses on so many different things that all need to come together to make it work. You need enough crit chance to get consistent CoC procs. You need enough Spell Dmg/Crit Multi for those procs to matter (freeze specifically). Since we are light on defense you need the Aura clusters to make up for that.

It can be 'reforged' as you said. But no matter how you do it you will all but have to rebuild from the ground up focusing more on defense so you can pick up more IIR on your gear. You will likely have to drop an Aura as well as give up the voll's.

Here's an Idea for a more defensive focused build. It should allow for more flexibility on your gear to pick up a lot of IIR.
You could pick up a ton more HP, a little chunk of Eva, and IR. But that will sacrifice a metric ton of dmg from the witch tree and a big chunk of attk speed. And likely loose the ability to run 3 auras on your mana.
Or you could opt in for a shield with the original build. Drop the DW nodes and maybe drop a little dmg from the witch tree for more HP/Eva. That will give a little chunk of survival. But it wont be MFcentric capable without amazing gear.
Check out my Frozen Dagger build in the Shadow forums!!
Last edited by Juggla1570#0315 on Jan 20, 2014, 1:37:19 PM
Hi mate here is my mess of gear , dont Flame this is my first toon remember :)






Last edited by Shaghar#0746 on Jan 20, 2014, 4:43:49 PM
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Juggla1570 wrote:
i hate huge quotes


What about MF soloing not-late maps? ( dont know for sure what am i talking about :P )

Is there any uniqs u could also suggest for your build?
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Student_Kutuzov wrote:
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Juggla1570 wrote:
i hate huge quotes


What about MF soloing not-late maps? ( dont know for sure what am i talking about :P )

Is there any uniqs u could also suggest for your build?

lol!!

Anyways - yes if you take a look at my terrible pre-70 maps gear it makes it apparent that with this build you can effectively farm early-end-game (so to speak) with subpar stats. Leaving a lot of room to stack up the IIR on your gear. You can easily forgo a good many stats in favor of IIR. The only things you have to be careful of is to keep your res in the positive, I did a whole bunch of 66-68 maps with my res hovering around zero. And have enough mana/mana regen to be able to keep casting. Outside of that you should have absolutely zero issues doing early maps with as much IIR as you can muster.

As for uniques. 2 of them are mentioned in the OP. Ungil's and Voll's (both extremely cheap and effective).
-There are a couple of decent boots out there. the most notable for this build would be Sin Treks.

I recently had these drop for me and I must say I love them. Tons of Eva/ES and 30% move speed. Rares can roll these stats and better. But if your looking for a guaranteed good piece of gear these are great.
-Berek's Grip is a great ring and has been mentioned numerous times by different people here.
-The Taming is also a wonderful ring
-Mali's Virtu are probably the most notable gloves out there for any crit build
-Alphas Howl, Rats Nest are 2 good options for your head. As well as The Gull. Gull isn't great but the ES on kill is awesome for those degen maps that kill your ES regen.

Please note that if your using Voll's your selection of Uniques becomes limited. You have to find a lot of mana and stocking up on OP uniques will make that impossible.
Check out my Frozen Dagger build in the Shadow forums!!
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Juggla1570 wrote:
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Have these boots already waiting for me getting 62 lvl in stash lol

Yeah, uniqs u offered are pretty nice, but they are also pretty expensive TT

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Juggla1570 wrote:
Please note that if your using Voll's your selection of Uniques becomes limited. You have to find a lot of mana and stocking up on OP uniques will make that impossible.


Mana or manaregen?
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Student_Kutuzov wrote:
Yeah, uniqs u offered are pretty nice, but they are also pretty expensive TT

Well quite honestly I had no plans for uniques in the build Other than voll's). I'll use then if they come along but had not built around them. As I said in the OP I am mostly solo/self found.

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Juggla1570 wrote:
Please note that if your using Voll's your selection of Uniques becomes limited. You have to find a lot of mana and stocking up on OP uniques will make that impossible.


Mana or manaregen?

Any combination of the two that allows you to keep casting. When running 3 auras on mana you will end up with approx 12% of max mana left when using all 3 aura clusters.. If your using voll's that cuts the actual number in 1/2. So if your 12% is equal to 50 mana you'll only end up with 25 after voll's.

I use a level 6 clarity on my HP to help keep my mana regen up to par.
Check out my Frozen Dagger build in the Shadow forums!!
Last edited by Juggla1570#0315 on Jan 20, 2014, 8:12:13 PM
Hey, I decided to respec my shadow to your build and I'm slowly making my gear vailible for it ( thanks for advices in my topic :) ).

Fast question, how many chroms you put into Voll's to made it GGGBB ?? I'm fighting with this armor sinc yesterday and after around 300 it's still not GGGBB :( I know this is STR/INT armor but I hope it will be like I need soon :)
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