Beating Nemesis without rares or uniques

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Jarnhand wrote:

It is harder for the casual gamer because he is normally not focused, got worse items, do not have a optimized spec, so a nerf hit harder. For example a powergamer with very high damage, can take a nerf, and still do alot better then a casual gamer.

it is still just as hard for the casual gamer to find good items, optimize his spec and get very high damage

i have never understood these "casual gamer" arguments, its like saying "hey guys i suck, please dont make the game too hard", but masking it behind some sort of "im not playing seriously" attitude

casual seems to just be a more elegant way of saying shit gamer

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Jarnhand wrote:

Sure, you can say it like that, I have no problem with that. I know I suck at some aspects, because I do not have the dedication needed.

Take a look at the races, the powergamers know what class to pick, what skill to pick, and what to do, and how to fastest possible level. A casual gamer has no chance whatsoever to get much from the leagues, outside maybe the first 2-3 items. Of the casual players that joins the races, I am pretty sure a large group of them gives up after just a few races, when they see they do not stand 'a snowball chance in a gassoline fire'-chance to even get half the number of levels as the powergamers.

But the problem is that the big bulk of players in any game are casual players, not hardcore minmaxers. So it is the casual gamer that fuels the machine, it is not the few hardcore.

MMOs are a different league. In MMOs you understand that if you want to do all the end game content, you need dedication and time. But in a game like PoE/Diablo/TL etc etc, it simply stops if you cannot advance. You cannot get further, there isnt much more to do, so you quit and find another game.

I have meet several walls in PoE, and if I had been a casual gamer I had just given up and moved on. But since I do not play alot of games, and do focus on a few, I have pushed through by grinding. But this is something the major bulk of casuals do not do. If the game no longer is fun, and it becomes a grind, they move on.

(Its a bit of an exception with PoE since its free, I would guess its the dedicated player that uses the shop. But the casual player still makes up the big bulk of players, and without the player numbers the game would kinda be forgotten and end up as a small niche game with no focus from the 'business'.)

But we are kinda derailing the thread...

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Jarnhand wrote:

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AdamJensen wrote:

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Jarnhand wrote:

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ur description of the "casual" games sounds like a person which is :
> mentally challenged
> never used a computer before
> never played a game before
> has no understanding of anything in life

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Demodian wrote:

That frost guy in tidal islands on merc will kill you my bet 3 chaos :)