Necro's pure righteous fire build HC, 90% phy dmg reduction, cheap! (5 seconds piety vid) lvl89

I just hit 65 yesterday and had some trouble getting to RF's minimum requirements right away due to only having a +2 fire sceptre AND PoF only at level 16. At this point RF was doing at least 10 dmg a second to my character and was "manageable" but the scariest thing I've ever done in PoE, rofl.

If you find yourself too impatient for PoF leveling past 16 and too poor for a +3 Sceptre, the new Growth and Decay cluster was enough to put me into positive regen. Beware that I had to drop 2 or 3 HP nodes temporarily to make it work so early.
Last edited by cmarren#2846 on Dec 12, 2013, 10:57:53 AM
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Thugs wrote:
I did some math with http://fogz.mine.nu:8080/poe_reserved_calc/

alpha howl with the already 8% mana reserve we have can do grace+determination+purity of fire and reduce mana, drop vitality and have amazing near 20k+ defense.

Doing this can also let us refund some points that were used on endurance charge to get it at around level 85 and pick up the new damage over time 1.4% life regain and grab the extra .8 by vaal pact.

Grabbing iron reflexs with alpha + this plate only makes it even better aswell, now add the level 22 grace+ determination and ultimately can go for a really good str/dex armor.

now you maintain 20k+ armor NO endurance charges, also do more burning damage

you can pretty much not worry about using enduring cry anymore and just use flamability.
Now you can use...

Any weapon you want in main hand no need for gem support

Helm 4L (alpha howl) Reduce mana - Grace - Determination - Purity of fire

Shield (rise of phoenix) 3L cast when stun level 20 + ice nova level 20 + shock nova level 20. I have a 15% cast when stun and stun happens a lot so works really good and gives a lot of damage

Plate 4link (belly of the beast) or a good str/dex one. Arc - Chain - Blood Magic-Faster casting If 5link use added chaos damage. (edit for future for facebreakers idea)

Gloves 4L Cast when damage taken - molten shell - enduring cry - item rarity or life leech

Boots 4L Flamability - Faster casting - blood magic - Increased area of effect

So yeah, I'm going to grab the new passives and iron reflexs and try alpha and dropping vitality + the 1 endurance charge and str nodes when I reach level 85ish or maybe 88ish. Should make this build super tank, more damage and no need to spam enduring cry on mobs and can let it be used with CWDT

level 82 atm, took 2 bandit rewards and 1 passive point goal for the above at level 88 is this tree below

Spoiler
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAAAdwCcQSzBS0MXxJpFE0WbxccFy8Y2xkuGYUb-h0UIWAkqiSwJd8n1SftKPoppTGeNZI26TrhPC1AoEGHR35M_03jTipQUFKvVElVxlhjW69fP2BLYSFlTWe9aHRxeXTtdPF4DXrvgKSCx4M4hNmE74bRiPGMz49GlKCYrZuhna6iAKQZplenCKluq8WsWa1Kr2y18rc-uJO53b6KxFjE9sWKxq7G2M0mz2XQ0NSP2E3aYuLq42rnUudj6-7ub-8O73zwH_Iv8kXz3fZI-ej60v4K_o8=




EDIT: By the way I have a crazy idea with this, with the above set up you get to pretty much use any weapon you want. and the chest is just being used for arc right? What if...Facebreakers + no weapon + 5 link chest with infernal blow + Multistrike + Melee Splash + Melee Physical Damage + blood magic or faster attack if theres a way to use mana for Infernal blow.

Drop determination for hatred will still be able to use endurance charges+ grace for more defense than ever.

I read facebreakers do around 40k dps AOE with melee damage on full life added to the above with hatred aura. We could pretty much do same thing with righteous fire on top :O. And apparently cyclone is even more dps with facebreakers. Resolute technique is only 3 nodes away as well. Melee splash with facebreakers chasing down mobs while can either cast on stun or cast on damage ice nova+ shock nova for EE just sounds insane....I clear amazing with RF alone and with facebreakers they could be the answer to bad map rolls that can't use RF.

But yeah I posted this here hope you reply I did the math everything seems to work maybe you can see a reason it wont let me know : )


Thanks for the post very nice! I hadn't thought about dropping vitality for growth and decay and run grace with IR. This option seems really good and if you can get maximum physical mitigation without endurances charges definetly the way to go imo. What I'm not sure from your post is, do you hit physical reduction cap with this gear and auras?

Using alpha howl has always been a possibility, it's up to the user! :). I will explain why, when I was building up the character, I thought alpha howl wasn't optimal or needed and decided not to use it.
- Expensive: at that time I saw them going for 4ex. Expensive for some not so expensive for others :)
- No life
- +2 to auras: While not completely the same this aura boost can be achieved by a weapon. +3 to pof and +1 to another aura
- 8% less Aura mana reservation: this is not needed as we run 3 auras all % based, 2x40% and 1x60%. We get 8% reduced from passive tree, a level 16 reduced mana is 75% aura cost. 60%+40%+40% * 92% * 0.75% = 96.6%
- Dexterity/evasion item: 138 dexterity and IR needed

While the cannot be frozen and 25% chill avoindance are insanely good mods it doesn't benefit this build as much as others. Due to the high HP freeze/chill should rarely happen, if they happen it should be for a really short period and you're still dealing damage while frozen/chilled.

In the end I decided to go for strength, armour and endurance charges. Anyways if with the new growth and decay cluster RF can be sustained without viltality, going for grace, IR and some evasion definetly needs a deeper look :)

With regards to other damage sources besides RF, there are a lot of possibilities and I haven't had the chance to explore them yet. I believe in the very very late end game, with level 20 gems, very good gear and lots of passive points anything is possible and I'm really curious about other players experiences :)
My guides
HC melee ranger: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/507976
HC RF scion: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/666667
HC RF marauder: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/842382
RF resource guide: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/832331
Last edited by Necropotence#0405 on Dec 12, 2013, 1:18:43 PM
im not sure if anyone has thought of this but the fact u are running rf means u have a humongous spell damage boost. not including the str behind this build. u could easily swap up a few things get some crit and a high crit wand and do cast on crit. maybe barrage iron will cast on crit (pik a spell). it would be rediculous amount of damage!!!

Spoiler
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgABAdwCcQOWBLMFLRkuG_ol3yftNZI8LUGHR35M_1BQVElfP2BLZU1odHTteA1674TZhO-I8YzPlKCkGaluq8WsWa9stfK3PrndvorE9sWKxq7Uj9hN2mLnUudj7w7wH_Iv8932SPno_go7KG49YEODCUZxtAyTJxzcf8bBxewYtNF2gsgMEZYOSKIuUEKMNuOEpzTAUXDVcFKdo_yrcLvZEy9vY0Py4VVLJpVte7VIWNtT35uDxBVKLrlDp6VAoJ65IWB08RjbrUpSrwxfzSZd8ohC8h0=
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Last edited by leighferon#0786 on Dec 12, 2013, 5:31:38 PM
hey necro thanks for reply. With the alpha set up yes you pretty much cap physical resist and dont even need endurance charges, but I have another idea if I use a couple of regrets I can do this tree set up

Spoiler
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAAAdwCcQSzBS0MXxJpFE0WbxccFy8Y2xkuGYUb-h0UIWAkqiSwJd8n1SftKPoxnjWSNuk64TwtQKBBh0d-TP9N41BQVElVxlhjXz9gS2EhZOdlTWh0cXl07XTxeA1674CkgseDOITZhO-G0YjxjM-PRpSgmK2ZK52uogCkGaZXpwipbqvFrFmtSq9stfK3PriTud29gb6KxFjE9sWKxq7G2M0mz2XQ0NSP2E3aYuLq42rnUudj6-7vDu988B_yL_JF8932SPno-tL-Cv6P


You need level 20 purity of fire and you can use armor helm with hatred+ determination+ POF + reduced mana level 20 aswell. these aura's dont have to be in helm they work any where. you also get another life bonus with this tree and more physical damage for facebreakers.

Pretty much get a 5link plate and run facebreakers with infernal blow and righteous fire. Hatred+infernal blow do cold + fire damage really good since we got EE.

I tested it and i can pretty much maintain RF with no vitality with out the 1.8 I haven't collected, Once i respec endurance charge points i'll pick them up : )

I should be able to test my facebreaker idea in about 3-4 days I'll try to run a bunch of maps to get level 20 purity of fire, pretty much all I need before I test this build. I got the facebreaker gems level'd up to 18. I'll make a video doing piety run and try to record 2-3 maps so you can see how it does : )
Let us know how it goes Thugs. I don't want to put points into any other points until then. I like having a passive aura and ability to still bash things too to speed things up.
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atrolotenri wrote:
Let us know how it goes Thugs. I don't want to put points into any other points until then. I like having a passive aura and ability to still bash things too to speed things up.


Sure thing, I'm hoping the facebreaker idea works if they do we can run bad maps where RF can't be used. I read cyclone with facebreaker is more dps but since we got EE the added fire damage and cold damage should add more dps. and Infernal blow is amazing AOE.
Has anyone gotten to test new cluster? Would like to know if it helps with damage before making a mad dash towards it
@ColdDrizzle
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leighferon wrote:
im not sure if anyone has thought of this but the fact u are running rf means u have a humongous spell damage boost. not including the str behind this build. u could easily swap up a few things get some crit and a high crit wand and do cast on crit. maybe barrage iron will cast on crit (pik a spell). it would be rediculous amount of damage!!!


I don't know if the damage boost from RF is that big or bigger then a specialised build in a certain spell. My guess is that, for example, an EK build would be more effective than a RF build with EK. One thing I have in mind is to mess around with discharge once I'm high enough level, also to kill those stupid totems :)

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Thugs wrote:
hey necro thanks for reply. With the alpha set up yes you pretty much cap physical resist and dont even need endurance charges, but I have another idea if I use a couple of regrets I can do this tree set up

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAAAdwCcQSzBS0MXxJpFE0WbxccFy8Y2xkuGYUb-h0UIWAkqiSwJd8n1SftKPoxnjWSNuk64TwtQKBBh0d-TP9N41BQVElVxlhjXz9gS2EhZOdlTWh0cXl07XTxeA1674CkgseDOITZhO-G0YjxjM-PRpSgmK2ZK52uogCkGaZXpwipbqvFrFmtSq9stfK3PriTud29gb6KxFjE9sWKxq7G2M0mz2XQ0NSP2E3aYuLq42rnUudj6-7vDu988B_yL_JF8932SPno-tL-Cv6P

You need level 20 purity of fire and you can use armor helm with hatred+ determination+ POF + reduced mana level 20 aswell. these aura's dont have to be in helm they work any where. you also get another life bonus with this tree and more physical damage for facebreakers.

Pretty much get a 5link plate and run facebreakers with infernal blow and righteous fire. Hatred+infernal blow do cold + fire damage really good since we got EE.

I tested it and i can pretty much maintain RF with no vitality with out the 1.8 I haven't collected, Once i respec endurance charge points i'll pick them up : )

I should be able to test my facebreaker idea in about 3-4 days I'll try to run a bunch of maps to get level 20 purity of fire, pretty much all I need before I test this build. I got the facebreaker gems level'd up to 18. I'll make a video doing piety run and try to record 2-3 maps so you can see how it does : )


Cool nice to hear about the physical resist. I will definetly take a look at dropping vitality for grace + IR. I need the leveled gems and to level myself first tho :)

With regards to the facebreaker melee RF idea I can tell you already that it works :)
There is a thread or two in the marauder forums about it. Me and another player suggested to use infernal blow instead of cyclone and I think the result was ok. If you use infernal blow however you'll trigger EE with it. What I haven't tested yet is what EE does if you hit an enemy with cold, lightning and fire damage in one blow. If I read EE description I would say it will lower all resistances by 25% but as GGG is so ambiguous with descriptions and stuff like that I would test it before if I were you, just to make sure :)

One thing about infernal blow, the explosion is unavoidable damage, it will ALLWAYS hit you in case of reflect. This build has high fire resistance which helps against this but beware as the damage you take can be insane. Imagine an elemental reflect pack, in a reflect mod map, with one or two totems around spicing things up and you blow up the pack leader which has a shitload of life ;) it can lead to one of those "WTF?!?!?!" situations

If you're seruiosly looking into going melee check the other thread, I'm sure there is a lot of info that might help you more...oh and post some vids yes :)

I will update the guide tomorrow as I got a lot of info and ideas I want to put up there..oh and get a new look ;)




My guides
HC melee ranger: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/507976
HC RF scion: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/666667
HC RF marauder: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/842382
RF resource guide: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/832331
Last edited by Necropotence#0405 on Dec 13, 2013, 1:40:12 PM
aaaah its such a draaaag to lvl 65 and my ground slam dmg suckz ballz :D! where do you guys lvl? fellshrine seems the most manageable for me...
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Canox wrote:
aaaah its such a draaaag to lvl 65 and my ground slam dmg suckz ballz :D! where do you guys lvl? fellshrine seems the most manageable for me...


I leveled the 2nd char as follows:

- get a nice 2h, use heavy strike + splash
- farm ledge and fellshrine in each difficulty until it's ok to progress and rush through the rest of the content solo or with parties. Farm merci fellshrine until level 60 something, finnish all quests except dominus and farm some A2 until level65
- grab some attack speed nodes on your way to duelist area

Really easy but yeah boring because you know you have to get to level 65 first ;)

I also do fellshrine the most, gl!

Gonna stream some piety runs, tomorrow maps time :)
My guides
HC melee ranger: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/507976
HC RF scion: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/666667
HC RF marauder: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/842382
RF resource guide: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/832331
Last edited by Necropotence#0405 on Dec 13, 2013, 3:42:53 PM

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