Why downgrade skill/aura effects?

"

philosoaper wrote:

I get it from the whole frame rate point of view, but a lot of enemies effects and micro transactions add similarly "complex" stuff.. and if a lot of people use that then what?

Also, i'm pretty sure you could have reduced the complexity of the auras graphics effects without making them look like they were recycled from a DOS game in the early 90's.. they just look embarrassing now..

"

Russell wrote:

The reason as we have said a few times is:

1: in partys with minions there was insaino lag. Like they were just built sooooo bad.

2: Visual clutter. Even warcraft 3 never got to the point where a hero would be stacking 3 of those oversized auras. Thats even including arena maps. In poe however we had the same size if not bigger auras but stacking 3-5 on average. It was a mess and really did not fit the rest of the game. The current ones I will upgrade if we ever lock the auras to 1-2 (unless you get certain passives that increase the count you can have). However poes designers dont seem interested in this. People are still running 3 auras even now. Thats not even on a character built around having all the auras : P

So yeah. We are trying to clean up combat a bit. Huge effects cause huge lag when spammed 100 times a second all over your screen. You also cant see for shit.Other games sadly don't do this so they dont get to know our pain. Its annoying when we get compared to titan quest and d3 effect optimisation wise when they only have around 30 skill effects at max on a screen at a time. As we go from 20-30 solo to 200-300+ party endgame. Floating damage numbers are not effects.

Also lights. Holy cow lights are insane. Im going through and removing them off skills I find. I was always told "nah their fine leave them" but they are not fine!. On my 7980 fireball if shot 5 times on top of each other would drop my fps from 100+ to 20-30 for a second. Now think of that when its spammed all over your screen. Its nuts. Discharge does the same thing. when you let off all 3 discharges at the same time they each have a light. A really large light. This drops your fps for like 0.3 seconds but it feels like more because its such a huge frame drop. So yeah this is an over time fix. Arctic breath and Ice Arrow are now usable ever since I removed their lights : P

Anyway in conclusion if PoE gets to the point where players use 1 aura each. Or none aura each unless they want to be a cool support guy I dont see auras changing look until then. The reason those other ones are slightly larger is because I was told they would most likely not all be used together. Also with the aura nerf people are using slightly less auras so I made the auras slightly larger to fit that : P.

"

Russell wrote:

Also lights. Holy cow lights are insane. Im going through and removing them off skills I find. I was always told "nah their fine leave them" but they are not fine!. On my 7980 fireball if shot 5 times on top of each other would drop my fps from 100+ to 20-30 for a second. Now think of that when its spammed all over your screen. Its nuts. Discharge does the same thing. when you let off all 3 discharges at the same time they each have a light. A really large light. This drops your fps for like 0.3 seconds but it feels like more because its such a huge frame drop. So yeah this is an over time fix. Arctic breath and Ice Arrow are now usable ever since I removed their lights : P

"

Russell wrote:

"

riddie wrote:

"

Russell wrote:

The reason as we have said a few times is:

1: in partys with minions there was insaino lag. Like they were just built sooooo bad.

2: Visual clutter.

Then WHY on earth did you change the subtle curse effects that where actually on par with the minimalistic auras, to colorful, screen filling, gameplay obstructing monstrosities?!

Haha yeah.. Im actually toning those things down today.

Hmmm It seems a lot of people here still didnt read my post. Im seeing a lot of "if it was laggy why not add an option to turn them down!". Completely ignoring the fact that on top of being laggy you also cant see whats going on. If you have a dark world it looks insane to have huge effects playing off minor skills/spells.


No D3 does not have as many skill effects on a screen at a time. We arnt going to destroy our entire skill system to change this either. People like kitting out their skills. Shooting fast and many projectiles. If we changed that im pretty sure people would be pissed.


Ah right one last thing. The reason for not having any visual slider is because a lot of these effects are just laggy in general. Only the highest end pcs can run them . Some of these skills look kinda average too.

"

Russell wrote:

Iv found simply removing removing lights from effects has fixed most problems.

"

Russell wrote:

The reason as we have said a few times is:

...

Anyway in conclusion if PoE gets to the point where players use 1 aura each. Or none aura each unless they want to be a cool support guy I dont see auras changing look until then. The reason those other ones are slightly larger is because I was told they would most likely not all be used together. Also with the aura nerf people are using slightly less auras so I made the auras slightly larger to fit that : P.