@Supporters : Should GGG use some of its money to buy videogame Psychologists Expertise ?

Hello,


Reading through 2 threads :
1) http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/577311
2) http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/542070/page/1

And always asking myself if streamers were hurting GGG more than helping it OR the opposite:
Helping : GGG+everyone know that streamers put the game on spotlight.
Hurting(my opinion) : The game feels less and less what made a Hack and slash => a game ( the awesome solo journey of discovering PoE )

I realised that Kripparian has a 100% chance to make a better build than mine, because he works much harder of course and since we have the stream + the youtube + the forum, there is no more place to find by yourself about the best combination of nodes for your futur build.
I am seriousely thinking about following a build ( which i never did in the past, oh i followed the facebreaker build though but what is it about ? => take Life + Gear with added damage.)

A group of new GGG employees could include : cyberpsychologists and video game psychologists. They would study "How the game is played" by adressing poe gameplay psychology + poe social psychology.

While writing this thread i found this interesting page :
http://www.psychologyofgames.com/2013/09/does-respeccing-your-character-in-diablo-3-make-you-happy/

Note : Even non-supporters can give their opinion but the more you gave ggg money the more i feel you have the right to ask how is the money used, the more i am interested to hear your opinion.
Oh and.. This thread is not about the benefits of having streamers or the harm.

Edit : When i said psychologits i meant, GGG should hire another kind of players who can give extensive feedback by playing the game nolife + be part of the team.

For a company like GGG Streamers are great. Especially people like Kripp got a huge fanbase and his stream/youtube channel equals to free advertisment for GGG.

If you do not like to the that other people come up with better build ideas than yourself... dont watch it?

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Inexium wrote:

Hello,


Reading through 2 threads :
1) http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/577311
2) http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/542070/page/1

And always asking myself if streamers were hurting GGG more than helping it OR the opposite:
Helping : GGG+everyone know that streamers put the game on spotlight.
Hurting(my opinion) : The game feels less and less what made a Hack and slash => a game ( the awesome solo journey of discovering PoE )

I realised that Kripparian has a 100% chance to make a better build than mine, because he works much harder of course and since we have the stream + the youtube + the forum, there is no more place to find by yourself about the best combination of nodes for your futur build.
I am seriousely thinking about following a build ( which i never did in the past, oh i followed the facebreaker build though but what is it about ? => take Life + Gear with added damage.)

A group of new GGG employees could include : cyberpsychologists and video game psychologists. They would study "How the game is played" by adressing poe gameplay psychology + poe social psychology.

While writing this thread i found this interesting page :
http://www.psychologyofgames.com/2013/09/does-respeccing-your-character-in-diablo-3-make-you-happy/

Spoiler

Note : Even non supporters can give their opinion but the more you gave ggg money the more i feel you have the right to ask how is the money used, the more i am interested to hear your opinion.

Oh and.. This thread is not about the benefits of having streamers or the harm.

1. NO

2 Everyone's opinion matters. Supporters started out as non-supporters and GGG's fair treatment of all players without regards to payment is important to the game's long term success. We aren't just supporting the game, we are supporting GGG and thebawesome way they handle things.

No need to quote nor to "NOOOOOO CAPSLOCK " ;)
I knew someone was going to tell me that GGG does not owe supporters explanations and does not have to meet their short-time expectations, yes they gave 1000$ and 1500$ ( and less ) because they have faith on GGG success, okay.

Having an opinion is important though. My view on supporters to GGG relation as i see it, is as following :

♣♣ Many players ask for something :
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/466763
GGG respond : http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/468826

Or

♣♣ Supporters and non supporters begin talking about money use, they start discussing wether we should have psychologist who can understand how poe can be more and less addictive or NO.
GGG comes and would say :
'Introduction
We are using money on servers now and for many years to come, and we are our own video game psychologists.
Thanks for your generous support'

I'd much rather have GGG spend all their money on optimizing code, balancing and adding new content; rather than hire some psychologists to turn PoE into a proper Skinner Box.

If you require a psychologist, go see one. That isn't GGG's problem. Do Beer companies pay for alcoholics pyschological problems? Do sweet companies pay for people suffering with obesity? Do drug dealers pay for people with a heroin addiction?

I think streamers help the game. For example Kripp is a long time player and has picked up quite a few followers, when he tries a new game people watching him also try it. Famous names bring attention and are someone the community can talk about. They can also help bring attention to different sorts of builds. I still remember Kripp doing the dual shockwave totem build lol.

Humans are naturally social, they want to talk and interact. Some games now even have facebook and twitter integration to help players socialise. In what way would artificially reducing social aspects of the game help it?

GGG should spend its money on making the game better and more robust, i.e. adding content, fixing bugs/technical quandaries; adding staff if it's appropriate to do so; and marketing the game.

I feel that streamers do more benefit than harm to the game at large; I, for instance, found out about Path of Exile and GGG through Kripp's stream back around July 2012, and I'm sure thousands of people have also discovered PoE through streams.

The risk of streamers is that they publicize optimized builds, which can make people feel inadequate about their own builds, resulting in wild market fluctuations as people ride the 'flavor of the month' wave. I have played flavor of the month builds, sure; they're often fun as hell and powerful. In the end though, I seek out my own little build, refine it over time, and have a lot of fun doing so.

I guess I'm a poor example, though. I have a lot of time to play around with my own things, while also being able to get into the flavor of the month builds to an extent. I do what I want, and the bottom line for me is fun. If I'm not having fun doing something, I won't do it, and I'll move on to something that I do find fun.

I'm also not really competitive, so I don't have the urge to be the most powerful, richest god-king in the game. I'm perfectly happy with my ~20 chaos total worth of currency, mediocre gear, and countless spreadsheets for builds I'm saving up for/fine tuning.

Since it's a F2P game then they have probably a psychologist or a book i guess ahaha ( not addressing the gameplay + social ).
http://www.bps.org.uk/news/psychological-research-shapes-video-games

I am pretty sure the futur of videogames companies is to rely on an even bigger range of employee : i say "true videogame psychologist" who can try to understand players enjoyement/addiction/connection between these and different levels of gameplay.

A video game psychologist does not have to be a "psychologist", he must be someone who can understand and PLAY the game and be part of the STAFF.
We have Alpha players who can give feedback, we have other players who can use feedback forum. Where is that player who can control the game development and play the game ? All we have is : Alpha + devs who don't have time to play their game.

A good video game psychologist would be Kripparian ? Let's check how he successfully analysed Diablo 3 and gave tips to Blizzard :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdwQ5aXOStQ

Blizzard listened and introduced what Kripp introduced : the Paragon levels

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDCOVJ1-hEM

He and many others should be hired. ( Neon is already ? I don't know if he qualifies to it). They should be hired by many companies as videogame psychologists and should start helping a game development.

They're not forcing it down your throat, you don't have to go to twitch or youtube. I think it's only an issue because you're making it one.

There are many more well deserving places for GGG's hard earned money to go.


Also don't judge people's opinions by their forum supporter title. Not everyone feels the need to show their generosity off.