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Neither increased damage nor more damage is superior. Both do the same thing. Having an equal amount of each results in maximum dps, as they are symbiotic and work multiplicatively with each other. That's what Zed_ has been saying, and it is accurate. You do not need to attack him.

oh dear don't
stop telling people increased damage is as good as more damage (or even better)
contributing is ok, but these things belong to the monkeycage

100 damage plus 50% increased damage plus 150% more damage would be calculated like this

100 x 1.5 x 2.5 = 375

100 damage plus 100% increased damage plus 100% more damage would be calculated like this

100 x 2 x 2 = 400

Basic math shows who's right and who's wrong. Do some research before trying to shut someone down.

please stahp
oh wait let me present an example

10+5 = 15
(8+7)*3 = 45

i think it's clear that 45 > 15 so your argument is invalid whatever you just tried to prove.

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My bad. You're not a fool. Will be keeping this within ggg regulations.

It is ignorant to disregard facts though.

I finally got around to do a Hillock stopwatch test. This is easily repeatable for any high level character, here's the details and the results. I appreciate the pointing out of any mistakes.

Snapshotting setup:

A: 70% Minion life and 0% Minion Damage from passive tree, 38% Minion Life from Chober Chaber, Links: Raise Spectre 20 + Minion Life 20/20 + Minion Damage 20/20 for a total of 172% Minion Life and 92% Minion Damage.

B: 70% Minion life and 0% Minion Damage from passive tree, 38% Minion Life from Chober Chaber, Links: Raise Spectre 20 + Minion Life 20/20 + Remote Mine 20 for a total of 172% Minion Life, 0% Minion Damage and 49% more damage.


Expected damage results:

Under my model:

A/B=(1+0.92)/(1*1.49)=1.29
A has 29% higher damage, or kills 23% faster (1/1.29=0.77)

Under op's model:

A/B=(1+1.72+0.92)/((1+1.72)*1.49)=0.9
A has 10% lower damage, or kills 11% slower (1/0.9=1.11)


Actual results:

A:

1.: 14.91s 2.: 14.5s 3.: 14.4s Avg.: 14.6s

B:

1.: 18.51s 2.: 18.77s 3.: 18.7s Avg.: 18.66s


Conclusion:

14.6/18.66=0.78
Setup A (Minion Damage) killed Hillock 22% faster than Setup B (Remote Mine), which supports the model of increased life as a separate multiplier from increased damage.

edit: punctuation.

So should I start levelling up my Minion Damage gem? -_-

@Cage (tm) inhabitant(s)
Congratulations, you managed to find the scenario where increased damage > more damage
+1 for effort
i chose not to list the items and support gems you 'accicentally' did not include in these mathematically accurate tests