[1.2] Rathik's EK build +40k DPS/52.3%Crit/+375% Multiplier. Anti-Reflect. "The Immortal Shuriken"

Thanks for the build/guide, I converted my old MF Sporker to this, and doing really well for now despite my gear not being made for it at all!
I have mostly ES gear, so I'm running around with only 600 armor (with Determination on), and still doing lvl 70 maps without a problem. The damage is so good that I even took the liberty of having IIQ and IIR gems instead of Added Fire Damage and Faster Projectiles for now, to get better gear faster (will probably have to switch back when doing higher tier maps I guess).

Looking forward to the upcoming bandit rewards respec options to get the extra power charge and physical damage.
But yeah, kind of scared of what they will do to Cast on Damage Taken, seems pretty over-powered at the moment.
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MinasMorgul wrote:
The defense depends heavily on the Cast when dmg taken Gem. Don´t you fear incoming Nerfs? The way it works right now is kinda gamebreaking.

And a quick Question concerning reflect dmg. When you hit a big group of reflect mobs, the first dmg will trigger immortal call, so the other hits will do no or just elemental dmg. Right?


I was playing this character way before release before the cast on damage taken gem and when reflect was 20% not 15%.
I just had 210 multiplier and not 300. It was still enough to one shot monsters, 2-3 shot rares and survive reflect.
My armour was also lower because Determination was weaker.
Its false to say the build defense depends heavily on the cast on damage taken gem.

Immortal call will only block physical damage. The cold and fire part damage of EK is not blocked by Immortal Call.

For physical reflect, you attack a pack of monsters, on first monster hit you get IM, the rest of damage is blocked.

For elemental reflect you will eat all the reflected damage. The cold and fire damage though is not that high, so as long you have 75% fire/cold resist you will be fine.

If they nerf something in a future patch, I will just lower my critical multiplier and get another endurance charge, the build is 1 skill point away from the templar endurance charge.
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Balbafu wrote:
Thanks for the build/guide, I converted my old MF Sporker to this, and doing really well for now despite my gear not being made for it at all!
I have mostly ES gear, so I'm running around with only 600 armor (with Determination on), and still doing lvl 70 maps without a problem. The damage is so good that I even took the liberty of having IIQ and IIR gems instead of Added Fire Damage and Faster Projectiles for now, to get better gear faster (will probably have to switch back when doing higher tier maps I guess).

Looking forward to the upcoming bandit rewards respec options to get the extra power charge and physical damage.
But yeah, kind of scared of what they will do to Cast on Damage Taken, seems pretty over-powered at the moment.


Read my comments on my last post.
IGN Riokar | My guides
[2.0]Non legacy Mjölner. Uber down. -thread/1474288
[2.0]Shatter Chuck Lite COC -thread/1324981
[2.0]SRS Magic Find Culler. Uber capable. /w budged build -thread/1406603
[2.0]NEWBIE MF/DPS Summoner -thread/479976 | Power leveling guide -thread/522556
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Rathik2 wrote:
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FedeS wrote:
Thanks for the guide Rathik. I read in another EK guide (before 1.0.0) that the guy linked EK with Fork and that was very profitable, what do you think? Thank you.


Why would you want to link fork with EK?

You've been pretty clear. I asked because the Shadow EK guide from terrex, he says this:

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Fork - EK with fork absolutely destroys clumped up enemies. Up to 10 potential hits turning into 20 is devastating. With some positioning this ends packs of monsters so fast. It is a nice support but for early on FASTER PROJECTILE might be more helpful with the extra distance and speed.

From here: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/302077

PS: and why not Faster Projectiles in order to get more range?
Last edited by FedeS#7818 on Nov 3, 2013, 9:51:03 AM
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FedeS wrote:
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Rathik2 wrote:
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FedeS wrote:
Thanks for the guide Rathik. I read in another EK guide (before 1.0.0) that the guy linked EK with Fork and that was very profitable, what do you think? Thank you.


Why would you want to link fork with EK?

You've been pretty clear. I asked because the Shadow EK guide from terrex, he says this:

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Fork - EK with fork absolutely destroys clumped up enemies. Up to 10 potential hits turning into 20 is devastating. With some positioning this ends packs of monsters so fast. It is a nice support but for early on FASTER PROJECTILE might be more helpful with the extra distance and speed.

From here: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/302077

PS: and why not Faster Projectiles in order to get more range?


Fork, chain, GMP, LMP. This gems are used to create an AOE effect.
EK is already an AOE with 10 projectiles.

And I am using faster projectiles.

Fork costs 15% more mana and lowers the projectiles damage.
You single target damage will be lower.
It also lowers your range.

Use it if you like, is still a green gem so you can still replace it with mana leech in no regen maps.

I prefer faster projectiles.

I will not compare guides for obvious reasons.
If you prefer his guide feel free to use it.
IGN Riokar | My guides
[2.0]Non legacy Mjölner. Uber down. -thread/1474288
[2.0]Shatter Chuck Lite COC -thread/1324981
[2.0]SRS Magic Find Culler. Uber capable. /w budged build -thread/1406603
[2.0]NEWBIE MF/DPS Summoner -thread/479976 | Power leveling guide -thread/522556
Last edited by Rathik2#1558 on Nov 3, 2013, 1:19:31 PM
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Rathik2 wrote:
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FedeS wrote:
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Rathik2 wrote:
Why would you want to link fork with EK?

You've been pretty clear. I asked because the Shadow EK guide from terrex, he says this:

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Fork - EK with fork absolutely destroys clumped up enemies. Up to 10 potential hits turning into 20 is devastating. With some positioning this ends packs of monsters so fast. It is a nice support but for early on FASTER PROJECTILE might be more helpful with the extra distance and speed.

From here: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/302077

PS: and why not Faster Projectiles in order to get more range?


Fork, chain, GMP, LMP. This gems are used to create an AOE effect.
EK is already an AOE with 10 projectiles.

And I am using faster projectiles.

Fork costs 15% more mana and lowers the projectiles damage.
You single target damage will be lower.
It also lowers your range.

Use it if you like, is still a green gem so you can still replace it with mana leech in no regen maps.

I prefer faster projectiles.

I will not compare guides for obvious reasons.
If you prefer his guide feel free to use it.

I see. Another question, you say in the guide:

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Ethereal Knives + Power charge on critical + Added fire damage + Faster casting
5L + Iron Will/Life Leech
6L + Faster projectiles/Mana Leech

So early on for leveling purposes, what gem would you recommend for 4L, Faster Casting, or Faster Projectiles? Do you see is more important Faster Casting? Or in early lvs we maybe can go with Faster Cast AND Fast Proj for 4L? I asked this because of the range, I'm pretty new and don't know how important the range is on EK about leveling matter.

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Rathik2 wrote:
If you prefer his guide feel free to use it.

I don't. But as I said before, I've read somewhere that one guy linked with Fork and was profitable for him, so I was curious about your opinion; then you asked why should we link EK with Fork and then I wanted to post the terrex's quote in order to know your opinion about that matter; not a matter of preferences. I will follow your guide ofc.
Faster casting is a must, the cast animation is just to damn slow because of EK slow base cast speed.
Faster projectiles is just convenient. If you got enough mana regen to sustain EK, use it.

Try this

EK + faster casting + added fire damage/life leech + faster projectiles

IGN Riokar | My guides
[2.0]Non legacy Mjölner. Uber down. -thread/1474288
[2.0]Shatter Chuck Lite COC -thread/1324981
[2.0]SRS Magic Find Culler. Uber capable. /w budged build -thread/1406603
[2.0]NEWBIE MF/DPS Summoner -thread/479976 | Power leveling guide -thread/522556
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Rathik2 wrote:
Faster casting is a must, the cast animation is just to damn slow because of EK slow base cast speed.
Faster projectiles is just convenient. If you got enough mana regen to sustain EK, use it.

Try this

EK + faster casting + added fire damage/life leech + faster projectiles


Thanks a lot,
Regards.
First off thanks a bunch for the build threads, I have a Matriarch and I'm now building a EK in Domination. I was wondering and I hope I didn't just miss it in the thread, but what do you use typically for flasks? In the screens I see a granite, chaos, quicksilver and two sanctified. I was wondering the affixes on them and why sanctified instead of hallowed. The longer duration of hallowed seems like it would be better for iron skin and similar buffs.

Thanks again for the builds and taking the time to answer questions.
does this work well for this build ?

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