Perz' Reave Shadow

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Gaupare wrote:
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Perz wrote:
That's quiet a big nerf to VP. I think those with high damage and IC on CWDT will still leech enough and survive reflect maps. Although those with leech problems due to low damage could get into trouble.
But we'll have to wait and see.


Unfortunately, that's not all. I'm currently playing around with the 1.1 skilltree...

This is the new location of VP


not great, but it takes you on the path that gives you the really good aura reduction nodes. i don't think it's particularly horrible place, but it does seem slightly worse than the original location.

regardless - that would not have been a build killer.

the VP nerf might very well be.
rip my sweet prince it has been fun killing anything and everything even that damned lightning piety boss map (i'm terrible with remembering names) time to sell most everything just as i twinked it perfectly for max resists 4.5k es and over 30k damage lol
Running with a dagger crit reave with pure ES gear here, 19k dps with full charges up, and had no VP pre-patch since I didn't have enough points... Without VP, it doesn't seem to have changed much, I obviously can't AoE a full group of reflect monster continuosly, but with CwDT+IC it's still manageable, you'll have to disengage sometimes, or play at a slow pace on reflect maps. On reflect maps, I usually swapped out a damage support gem (in my case inc crit multiplier), and depending on the gem color, you can put in a IR/IQ/LL support.

With pure ES gear you can get 5k ES without too much trouble, which get to 6.5k with discipline. You the get a leech rate of 1300ES/sec, which is pretty good. With 10% LL from blood rage (more if you're using claws), you'll need to deal 13k DPS to keep you leech going, which is not that high. It's just that without VP, you have to play conservatively, and know when to stop tanking and disengage before getting too low.
IGN: Nanaya_Kiri
Last edited by Nanaya_Kiri#0311 on Mar 5, 2014, 7:48:05 PM
so anyone continued this build after the lost of Vaal Pact? If so how was your survivality?
I kinda create a Claw CI build for 1.1 based on Perz's build. However, with VP nerfed (huge nerf for sure), it seems kinda easy to die.

this is the link of my build below; still testing it, so far its okey. (It wont be as good as pre 1.10)

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYABLEFtQyNDUkOSBB7ES8RlhUaFSAV1xX9Fr8a2xutHhoknSgqKjgqTSsKLL8s6S9vMFQwfDIJOK05lj3iPs8_J0BVRwZI7krITGBRR1ZjW69e-l9qYlpnHmp-bEZuqm9XcFJwu3JseK54638rhq6H242_j_qVZplXmZqaeJ2jnyemf6c0qW6tHrGztMW1SLXytve95r46wFHBAMHFwuzDbdN-1gfWiteG2RPbGtvn3ILdDd1I44TnCutj7BjtQe127g7veu-g8-r1S_lj_Kv8xf-T

I have around 4700 ES, 32% block, and 13000 DPS (with Hatred + increase IIQ+IIR).
updated passive trees for all sections

even with only 40% leech, i still leech my es full instanly. in reflect maps CWDT + IC procs like hell but i survive even phys reflect maps. so actually the new patch didn't destroy the build. we even got some more dps and es. :)
IGN: Perz | Reaver: view-thread/523959 | Wander: view-thread/742525 | Cycloner: view-thread/804489
Perz does this mean with a lower dps weapon/setup VP isn't viable? Or will it work well enough...
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Perz wrote:
updated passive trees for all sections

even with only 40% leech, i still leech my es full instanly. in reflect maps CWDT + IC procs like hell but i survive even phys reflect maps. so actually the new patch didn't destroy the build. we even got some more dps and es. :)


Hi Perz,

Would you please post a new skill tree for us and what does IC stand for, sorry a noob here.

Thx for the update
To Die Is Not An Option, To Fight Until DIESync Is The Only Answer. ☺☻☺

Happy Hunting Exiles.
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reaperpi wrote:
Perz does this mean with a lower dps weapon/setup VP isn't viable? Or will it work well enough...


if your dps is "high enough" you can still go for vaal pact. although if your dps is too low, no vaal pact will be better.

you can only leech 20% of your maximum es per second without vaal pact here.
if you have 5k es then you can only leech a maximum of 1000 es per second.
at 25% life leech you only need 4k dps to do so.

so technically, if i'm not mistaken, you can go for vaal pact when your dmg is above 4k dps.

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GrumpyBear5043 wrote:
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Perz wrote:
updated passive trees for all sections

even with only 40% leech, i still leech my es full instanly. in reflect maps CWDT + IC procs like hell but i survive even phys reflect maps. so actually the new patch didn't destroy the build. we even got some more dps and es. :)


Hi Perz,

Would you please post a new skill tree for us and what does IC stand for, sorry a noob here.

Thx for the update


i already posted new skilltrees in each section. check out the underlined links.
IC = Immortal Call
IGN: Perz | Reaver: view-thread/523959 | Wander: view-thread/742525 | Cycloner: view-thread/804489
Last edited by Perz#2458 on Mar 6, 2014, 5:53:21 AM
I have to say, I've been having a BLAST with this build. It's finally the first build that's let me go higher than 66/67 maps, I can solo 73/74 maps. I don't get much time to play, so this build has been so fun for me! Not top tier or anything at all.. but this nerf is really got me on the fence. I'm going to allocate my skills, and see how it goes. I trust you Perz!!!

Before this patch i was at about 18.5k dmg with all charges up, that includes hatred. So i'm hoping I can still survive... It will really bum me out if I have to start over AGAIN with a new character :(

I love GGG but this constant readjusting of the passive tree is getting old. I understand it's for better placement, and optimization, but it keeps throwing everyone for a loop. I will post here when I find out how my shadow goes, he's lvl 83, about 3700 es.

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