Why desync is fixable:

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DE3me wrote:

You ever played one of the AoS/MOBA games?
With good servers you won't even realize that you are behind. It can be hard in areas with bad connections, but that can build up later. I think the game would get more players (and more money with it) so it would be possible to build up additional servers.

To you guys, try to play some games of these games and tell me that they are not responsive.

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Btw, a second behind means you have a ping of over 1000ms. Just saying.

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dudiobugtron wrote:

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DE3me wrote:

You ever played one of the AoS/MOBA games?
With good servers you won't even realize that you are behind. It can be hard in areas with bad connections, but that can build up later. I think the game would get more players (and more money with it) so it would be possible to build up additional servers.

To you guys, try to play some games of these games and tell me that they are not responsive.

I live in New Zealand. Every single game I have played online (with the exception of games with community servers, and PoE) has had bad ping. Ever tried hitting someone in Halo with a ping of 300? You can't.

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dudiobugtron wrote:

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Btw, a second behind means you have a ping of over 1000ms. Just saying.

A second behind means you have a ping of 500. Half a second behind means a ping of 250. Because of the round-trip.

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Startkabels wrote:

That's not how it works at all

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Real_Wolf wrote:

Most places hook you on US servers.

Whats more, unless you play solo in PoE, you often end up on 200/300ping servers, because everyone on the same instance is on the same server, so while I want the AU server, it might chuck me on EU and be terrible.

But the lovely thing about PoE, is its not terrible.

However if it was like online games with delay instead, it would be.


Take for example D3. This uses set servers. If you are on the US server, you can't see/talk to/join/work with anyone from anywhere else. This means that every server has about the same ping because the only people on there are all using US servers.

BUT it maens you are also delayed by such.

Personally I like being able to talk to people from other countries in PoE, even play with them, without suffering hugely.



You make Desync out like it is some terrible thing, I have very few problems with it, and don't get desynced very often. When I am its clear, and I can adapt. I believe there is a lot of ways they could improve resync based on information that the client can already see (attack an enemy and clearly didn't hit despite the aoe being right on them --> Enemy desynced, resync it), but you seem to be discounting many things.


I have said playing with a ping IS noticeably bad. You seem to be of the opinion that "screw it, theres a server in the US, thats all that matters". I suspect you are from the US, because it seems to be an accepted thing there that you just treat everything as if it is just for the US and thats it, and don't take into account that other coutnries exist or may want to play aswell

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Real_Wolf wrote:

You make Desync out like it is some terrible thing, I have very few problems with it, and don't get desynced very often. When I am its clear, and I can adapt. I believe there is a lot of ways they could improve resync based on information that the client can already see (attack an enemy and clearly didn't hit despite the aoe being right on them --> Enemy desynced, resync it), but you seem to be discounting many things.

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kruemel2222 wrote:

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Real_Wolf wrote:

You make Desync out like it is some terrible thing, I have very few problems with it, and don't get desynced very often. When I am its clear, and I can adapt. I believe there is a lot of ways they could improve resync based on information that the client can already see (attack an enemy and clearly didn't hit despite the aoe being right on them --> Enemy desynced, resync it), but you seem to be discounting many things.

See, it is great that you don't have any significant problems with desync but when you look at the forums you should realize that quiet a lot of people have troubles. I have them for sure. And up to a point where it realy limits what I can do in this game.

When I use a movement skill like cyclone I am guaranteed to end up in a place where I never intended to go. Cyclone is horrible in particular because sometimes my character just keeps spinning around to random nearby places without giving me the chance to cancel the skill. When I use a melee AoE skill like Ground Slam or Cleave it is often impossible to hit mobs that are supposed to be directly in front of me yet I hit stuff that's far away with the same attack. Sometimes even doing nothing but running around get's me teleported to random places (high movement speed and indoor maps like pyramides are drastically increasing the chance that this happens). Mobs that move fast also get often teleported far away from me or directly next to me (for example the stone elementals). And so on.

Yes, of course I can avoid most of this. Don't use movement skills, don't play with high movement speed, don't enter indoor areas. Neither of this sounds very appealing, right? Desync is a terrible thing. Or at least I am experiencing it as something terrible.

I understand that having a noticeable delay isn't great either. I have played games with high ping before. I guess everyone has. But if I had the chance to choose between desync and slightly delayed but predictable gameplay I wouldn't choose desync.