My Take On The Whole Razer Situation.

Being a person who has played this game for a while now, reading the forums and GGG posts all the time, I'd like to think that I know GGG and how they envision this game to at least some degree.

I honestly never thought that they would do something like this. GGG Has normally been known for being real Good Guy Greg about these kind of things in the past. They aren't the company that you would expect to put ads in the middle of the game, and they aren't the kind of company that is trying to get as much money out of you to put in their own pockets. They're a company that genuinely loves the game and are putting everything they have into making a game that they love.

But, quite honestly, this can only mean one thing: GGG is not doing extremely well financially. In order for them to have done something like this, it's glaringly obvious that they need more money in order to progress with the game the way they want to. Instead of cutting out features or delaying the full release or for whatever reason, they accepted the deal with Razer.

GGG needs to find better ways to boost their income. Currently the microtransaction shop probably isn't bringing in enough money for them. We should help them find better ways to do this, so that we don't have to see more things like this happen in the future, because to me and many other people, logos of a real life company within the game definitely isn't what we would have thought we would see inside of Wraeclast.

How can we as a community help them with this? We need to tell them what kind of things that we want to see in the microtransaction shop. Pets and weapon effects are cool, but they're just everyone's cup of tea. To the average player, there isn't much incentive to want to go out and buy more effects and pets to them. They need more things in the shop that will appeal to more people without becoming a pay to win game. Thinking of microtransactions that aren't pay to win is not an easy task, I think GGG doesn't have the manpower to constantly think of new things to implement in their shop.

We should start suggesting new things that the community would buy in their shop. GGG can then pick the best ideas that the community agrees upon, and work on implementing them. This would definitely help boost their income, and hopefully prevent something like this from ever happening again.


What do you guys think?

Simply put, GGG sold out.

Best solution: Pay to play, monthly subscription, etc. In-game ads is NOT the solution, no matter how slight or underhandedly they're delivered.

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Jack_Mayhoffer wrote:

Simply put, GGG sold out.

Best solution: Pay to play, monthly subscription, etc. In-game ads is NOT the solution, no matter how slight or underhandedly they're delivered.

Pay to play definitely is not the direction they want to go right now. It would probably result in them losing a good amount of their playerbase and income. Free to play model is definitely going to give them more money than a pay to play model would, but their current f2p model isn't very successful.

hmmmm...

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Jack_Mayhoffer wrote:

hmmmm...

Please.

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CharanJaydemyr wrote:

Spoiler

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Jack_Mayhoffer wrote:

hmmmm...

Chris talked about this several times in the past. Make your point.

A joke? Naaaah... couldn't be! ;P

I'd pay a 5$ sub per month if they need to.


*provided the fix the 6L fusing occurrence.*

I recall reading that GGG didn't get any money from this razer thing, it was simply GGG advertising razer, and razer advertising GGG.

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CharanJaydemyr wrote:

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Jack_Mayhoffer wrote:

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CharanJaydemyr wrote:

Chris talked about this several times in the past. Make your point.

A joke? Naaaah... couldn't be! ;P

Agreed, it couldn't. You aimed for 'sly implication' and barely made 'crass derailment attempt'. :)

That was a hilarious, well timed joke that needed telling, but then I suppose you need a sense of humor to find it funny :(

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CharanJaydemyr wrote:

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Origination wrote:

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Jack_Mayhoffer wrote:

Simply put, GGG sold out.

Best solution: Pay to play, monthly subscription, etc. In-game ads is NOT the solution, no matter how slight or underhandedly they're delivered.

Pay to play definitely is not the direction they want to go right now. It would probably result in them losing a good amount of their playerbase and income. Free to play model is definitely going to give them more money than a pay to play model would, but their current f2p model isn't very successful.

Yeah, it's too late for that. They had a brief window during Closed Beta to go against their word and stick to the $10 buy-in, which made them a trucktonne of cash, but they're nothing if not men and women of their word. For better or worse.

As much as people want to say GGG 'sold out', fact is they've had dozens of perfectly good chance to do just that and declined. Do you honestly think they're not being courted by a bunch of publishers who'd jump at the chance to monetise the whole gig?

I'm not sure you can call it 'selling out' when neither party gets any actual money.

Finally, I'm sort of curious: if you've never seen their figures, how can you say the current f2p model isn't very successful?

Multiple factors, the first being most of the microtransaction effects are visual components only. A lot of people only buy things like this to show off their epeen. In a highly instanced game like path of exile where it's easy to be completely separated from other people, you can only imagine that visual effects wouldn't rake in as much money as they would in other games.

You can take a run through all the towns, there isn't an overwhelming amount of people that you see running around with cosmetic effects, which are the bulk of the content that they have in their microtransaction shop.

Also, why else would they implement the razor footprints if they weren't doing well financially? It completely baffles me why they would implement something like this other than the reason than they needed more money. Microtransactions are where they are getting most of their money from. If they had to look for some other way to get money, then what does that mean? That their microtransactions probably aren't bringing in as much money as they would want.