One-week "Resistance Penalty Testing" Hardcore Ladder Race

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TEBird wrote:

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MrDDT wrote:

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TEBird wrote:

Also in addition to my other already added concerns thoughts/it seems a bit harsh for a level 55 char to get worse exp leveling with a 65 than he/she would otherwise get soloing.

There are lots of times when friends are lower level, and I understand there needs to be some balance to it, but it just seems wrong to penalize lower level players so hard...makes it tough for friends to level together without being around the same level and that isn't fun either.

How do you fix this issue? I agree it's an issue and make it less likely for players to want to group up.

Even with the "boosted player" tactics in party its pretty much a solo person with 1+ other in the zone not playing near them is the best way.

Right now only thing a true party is good for is +% to MF. Is that enough? I'm not sure its enough, heck in hardcore (I cant say for softcore) grouping in a party is very risky due to 1 death = reroll. I never seen public parties and I believe its for this reason and the FFA looting.

I think before they nerf the party exp, a good system has to come up to give a bonus to parties. Also give a reason to solo vs party. Not stacking all the favor to 1 side or the other.

Right now solo has exp advantage and the no worry of loot being stolen.
Boosted party has the advantage is exp, increased items, little worry of loot being stolen.
Party has progressing faster, increased items.

All in all, its pretty even but each can be exploited and I'm pretty sure we will see "boosted party" being done soon a lot and solo players will be upset when it starts to make its way into races.

What I'm talking about when I say "boosted party" is I'm talking about me and 5 buddies are in a party, 5 of them stand at the start of the zone, I run around killing every mob in the zone.
I get 425% exp while the monsters only have 350% HP. I also get increased item drops.
The 5 extra people do not need to skill anything, nor be of a special level. So it can be my AFK friends, or 5 extra accounts, or whatever.

In regard to what to do to fix the issue with getting worse exp in a party when you are lower level, just make it so that there is a minimum xp cap as long as you are within 10 levels of the highest party member. I.E. party xp cannot be worse than solo xp. Problem solved.

For example if you are getting 10% of a lvl per map solo. You shouldn't get less than 10% of a lvl per map in a 2 player group just beacause your buddy is 5 levels higher level higher than you are.



As to the other issues you mentioned. They are real issues, but I addressed these already with a proposed solution back 1-2 pages ago.

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MrDDT wrote:

BOOST XP / PARTY XP exploit/issues.

Can you make a new topic about it as to not derail this, and I will be happy to comment on why I dont believe your solutions fix the issue and likely create others.

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ransagy wrote:

Not once a duelist was mentioned in this thread. I wonder how badly we will get hit. Duelists, regardless of build, are getting less and less viable, esp. as solo classes, IMO.

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ransagy wrote:

Not once a duelist was mentioned in this thread. I wonder how badly we will get hit. Duelists, regardless of build, are getting less and less viable, esp. as solo classes, IMO.

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ransagy wrote:

Not once a duelist was mentioned in this thread. I wonder how badly we will get hit. Duelists, regardless of build, are getting less and less viable, esp. as solo classes, IMO.

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ransagy wrote:

Not once a duelist was mentioned in this thread. I wonder how badly we will get hit. Duelists, regardless of build, are getting less and less viable, esp. as solo classes, IMO.