ScrotieMcB vs Desync Dev Manifesto (Massive Wall Map of Text)

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Crackmonster wrote:

By throwing away your critical thinking and assuming that it will be fixed soonish, you are effectively removing a part of their incentive to care.

You are just running around telling people they cannot discuss whatever they want to discuss, based on your opinion that it is irrelevant. Take your own advise and remain quiet if you have nothing constructive to add to the thread.

Others have realized the time to stay silent is past, that you have not obtained this knowledge is not my concern. This is my last comment in this regard as it's a waste of posts arguing about that rather than the actual topic.

I cannot believe i have not given up on you yet and that i continue to believe that if i explain to you what was said that maybe you will start to understand and consider the possiblity that i may have a point throughout everything i have been telling you.

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You read what I said and then responded by telling me that my opinion is irrelevant, making accusations like I don't want to critically think, falsely saying that I am trying to tell people they can't discuss it, Telling me to be quiet and that my post was not constructive, and then after all that saying that you would no longer respond to me.

Let me break it down for you.

You come in here telling people that there is no point in discussing what is in this thread, because the devs are on it and the best we can do it wait and hope all is well.

This is what you said:

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iamstryker wrote:

I'm amazed that Chris apparently read either most or all of this. Its a hot button issue but I hope even technically savy people will read what Chris said and be patient or take a break from the game. Moaning about it or making suggestions that aren't helping because they lack information is pretty pointless.

Which means you catagorize everyone engaged in this thread as either moaning about it or having useless opinions because they is a lack information. This is probably one of the more technical and interesting posts about this from any player, even if not perfect and things may have been misunderstood. Therefore you are in consequence discouraging everyone from posting about this topic and to sit back relax, have patience or quit the game for a while.

Now, recall you telling me that i should:

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iamstryker wrote:

If you want to have mature dialogue with me in the future please just respond to what I said by saying something like....

"I disagree iamstryker, I think its important that we discuss this issue because I don't think the devs are doing enough".

Which is exactly what this is:

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By throwing away your critical thinking and assuming that it will be fixed soonish, you are effectively removing a part of their incentive to care.

Which means: I do not agree, because it is damaging to the process to sit back in your couch like a vegetable and expect things to change when it would appear different. Apparently i am not the only one of the belief that it is time to talk about desync again. We have been quiet for long enough.

And yes, you are throwing away your critical thinking because you automatically assume that the devs know how to handle this which the past has shown us that they do not. This issue may ruin the future of this entire game, yet here you are saying it will all be alright and we should sit back and not talk about it because we do not have any facts anyway.

Also, you omitted that the very first response to you was

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We have been silent long enough. Every time it's said they have things in the works, which in essence means we should keep quiet since it's all under control, but we cannot keep quiet forever when nothing changes.

It acknowledges your stance on things that you think we shouldnt talk anyway because we do not have information, and that we should instead sit back and wait with patience, but it also writes explicitly why i disagree that it is the best approach. No insults, no nothing. You simply won't accept what i write because in your mind i am marked as an enemy who wills to do you evil.

The two above qoutes of mine, which also were my very first responses to you, contain everything related to what you had to add to this thread, and did not disregard you in any way while merely stating while i disagreed. From there on i try to explain to you my reasoning behind why i do not think your stance on things is ideal, but you instead take it as an insult and it all becomes about who is the most right instead of it being a discussion. You may take it as an assault because i touch your pride, but it is obvious to me that you lack critical thinking like it is diplayed in your level of blind love towards chris given the way you went in and defended him. No amount of whine that this is only my opinion will make me lie to you that is it not true. Instead of learning and trying to listen to what im telling you in an attempt to educate you, youd rather make it a mudslinging contest because then everyone are dirty and in that way think do not have to bide your broken pride.

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You are just running around telling people they cannot discuss whatever they want to discuss, based on your opinion that it is irrelevant. Take your own advise and remain quiet if you have nothing constructive to add to the thread.

I am simply pointing out the ironic fact that you enter a thread, just to tell people that they shouldn't talk and its better for them to wait and do nothing because the talk doesnt help, when in fact what you said is exactly that, something which if you applied your claimed reasoning to would mean you should never post inside this post in the first place. No attack, just plain and simply defending the rights of people to speak in this post and pointing out your two faced arguments. Fact, nothing else, no add hominum. I use irony to give you your own advice because it fits better for yourself than it does for us.

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Others have realized the time to stay silent is past, that you have not obtained this knowledge is not my concern. This is my last comment in this regard as it's a waste of posts arguing about that rather than the actual topic.

Here i am trying to communicate with you that we are talking off topic about useless person vs person things, i am trying to make it stop, but it all is an offense to you apparently.

Also notice how i in my last answer to you predicted your very response. This is because i have seen how you time after time refuse to acknowledge the actual meaning of the words i am writing to you. I have no agenda against you, but simply there is no point to argue with you when you will not listen nor understand nor can keep up nor will consider the possibility that you are wrong. It is because i care not to be a retard against you that i explain this, if i didn't care i would just have left you after you thought i dissed you. Probably in your mind though you imagine me sitting here trying to frame you while frothing etc, but the thing is i never give up on any soul out there.

You have so little knowledge or understanding of the words and the things you talk about, that you give me directly wrong examples in which you disprove yourself if you compare what was said to what you claim was said, but even pointing it out appears not to help because you just don't get it, and then you continue the same assaults with new questions and new angles, but never addressing the core of what was said to you.

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Crackmonster wrote:

And yes, you are throwing away your critical thinking because you automatically assume that the devs know how to handle this which the past has shown us that they do not.

They know far better than you do about their game in regards to this issue which is why I beieve this discussion is pointless.

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You simply won't accept what i write because in your mind i am marked as an enemy who wills to do you evil.

you never gave a legitimate response to my criticism of this thread other than I am wrong and then dismissing what I had to say and then getting very rude about it.

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but it is obvious to me that you lack critical thinking like it is diplayed in your level of blind love towards chris

There is literally no reason at all why I should believe you over Chris on anything in the game especially Desych.

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Instead of learning and trying to listen to what im telling you in an attempt to educate you.

Learning and listening to what? Educate me on what? You did nothing of the kind. Please stop making stuff up.

And here:

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You are just running around telling people they cannot discuss whatever they want to discuss, based on your opinion that it is irrelevant. Take your own advise and remain quiet if you have nothing constructive to add to the thread.

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Fact, nothing else, no add hominum. I use irony to give you your own advice because it fits better for yourself than it does for us.

Try to dress it up all you want it was just a rude dismissal of my opinion about this thread. Not sure why you had to over react like that. I would have clarified for you that I don't care at all if this thread continues, I made my post just to give my opinion and then maybe hear a counter argument as to why this thread should exist if no one really understands the issue as Chris pointed out. Maybe you all think Chris is lieing or something?

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Here i am trying to communicate with you that we are talking off topic about useless person vs person things, i am trying to make it stop, but it all is an offense to you apparently.

You quickly dismissed my criticism of the thread which I thought was a rude way to respond to me so I again asked in a different way why this thread should keep going which then garnered an even ruder response.

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with you when you will not listen nor understand nor can keep up nor will consider the possibility that you are wrong.

How about next time simply answer my question instead of trying to just say I am wrong like I never should have asked. I would have accepted a straigt answer like "No stryker I do not believe the devs are working on it to the best of their ability which is why I think its important that this thread continue". If you would have answered like that then I would have been fine accepting that.

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You have so little knowledge or understanding of the words and the things you talk about, that you give me directly wrong examples in which you disprove yourself if you compare what was said to what you claim was said, but even pointing it out appears not to help because you just don't get it, and then you continue the same assaults with new questions and new angles, but never addressing the core of what was said to you.

Thats a lot of meaningless words in a row there. Please be specific about your complaints about me so I can give a decent response other than WTF?

Please just give a simple explanation of your disagreement in the future without rudeness or dismissing me and we can avoid these back and forths thx.