Don't Remove MF from the Game; Just Cut it in Half

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Saffell wrote:
Item flipping is not scamming, it's the same principle ever used store in the world operates off of, pawn shops, car dealerships, used game stores. Someone buys something from you for less than it's worth, and then sells it for full prince. You benefit because you don't have to track down the one dude who actually wants it. Dealer profits from markup, but at the same time has to invest currency, and takes a risk because the item may never sell.

At first it works like that, I can't disagree. And I wouldn't blame someone publicly doing so, as sometimes you need currency and would sell your item for less than its actual value, just because you'll be fine with your next purchase and don't really care about "currency stacking".

But I've seen quite a couple of games where the economy ends up being "WTB anything 30% off pm me" or worse - nobody wants to purchase at a "fair" price and tries to cut your prices by half every single time (via pm ofc).
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Last edited by Stakhanov#1261 on Oct 14, 2013, 6:30:18 AM
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Stakhanov wrote:
But I've seen quite a couple of games where the economy ends up being "WTB anything 30% off pm me" or worse - nobody wants to purchase at a "fair" price and tries to cut your prices by half every single time (via pm ofc).
In all seriousness, what on earth do you think "buy low, sell high" means? Of course this is what flippers do. It seems that you're only comfortable with their activities so long as they remain invisible to you.
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ScrotieMcB wrote:
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Stakhanov wrote:
But I've seen quite a couple of games where the economy ends up being "WTB anything 30% off pm me" or worse - nobody wants to purchase at a "fair" price and tries to cut your prices by half every single time (via pm ofc).
In all seriousness, what on earth do you think "buy low, sell high" means? Of course this is what flippers do. It seems that you're only comfortable with their activities so long as they remain invisible to you.

It's not as simple as that.

There are two kinds of "flippers". Those who offer a service by posting stuff like "Needing currency ? I can buy your items at a discounted price", and those who aggressively pm you every time you try to sell something, offering 50% or less of what you asked for.

I'm ok with the first kind. I can't stand the second. Buying low and selling fair doesn't bother me as it doesn't impact the economy that much.
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Malone wrote:
it's more interesting to grind solo rather than in party, imho.
Well, 50 % more IIQ per player means that in average you have less drop.

I run solo IIQ/IIR 135/320 and am very happy with RNG :)


You forget the time it takes to run a map in a party vs the time it takes solo also with the new changes you will be running 0/320.
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I don't plan to play in new league so no change for me. Will continue to play with my legacy stuff :D
And I clean very fast maps, no worries ;) It would be better if Wondertrap had 30 % MS but with 2 quicksilver the job is done anyway.
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Last edited by Malone#6946 on Oct 14, 2013, 2:30:44 PM
To OP:
Did the recent implementation of Greeds Embrace feel like a slap to the face ?
Given the new values that 20%IIQ is totally enough to double the effect from noninherent MobMF.

People are again swimming in a dumbster, i guess cutting IIR/Q again would be appreciated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcKqhDFhNHI
why necroposting this stuff ?
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Malone wrote:
why necroposting this stuff ?


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People are again swimming in a dumpster, i guess a recalculation of numbers because.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcKqhDFhNHI
if you dislike swimming in a dumpster, just run with 400 IIR.
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Lachdanan wrote:
To OP:
Did the recent implementation of Greeds Embrace feel like a slap to the face ?
Given the new values that 20%IIQ is totally enough to double the effect from noninherent MobMF.

People are again swimming in a dumbster, i guess cutting IIR/Q again would be appreciated.


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