Official Blender Post! Lets theory craft for 1.2! 123k Cleave DPS!

I would just like to see how 123k cleave is possible without going crit

It is possible. Mine was right at 120k. Cleave was just buffed and with the # 1 dps sword, a Leg ST, + the new dw nodes & heralds, cleave hits stupid hard.

Check this thread for some of my gear used:
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1043392

Hey !

I followed the GlassCannon tree before the last update with the Cyclone Spec.
Since i found a ST i on my way to specc into it.

This was my gear before i found the ST.




Before the ST my gems in BoR was:



I am and was running Hatred and Grace and reached almost 36k Cleave selfbuffed.

Defs:

Resistances :
Almost cap (just one left to 70% i think)
Chaos : -60%

Life: 3.7k ATM

My actual tree (lvl 85):

https://www.poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgAAAdwC0AOHBLEILglYCpsQ8BHVErwUUhcdGNsZLhutG_oj9iXfJ-0oKimlMgk0kzWSNe82ujiWOu08LUd-Sn1KyExgTZJOKlPfV5dY21uvXLBc-WBBY3BkWmVNZ6BsRm20bmluqnBycmxyqXSueA1463zZfr2BQYLkhNmHdoqvkAqQEZVml_6bapuDm42jiqQZqW6sqq-itfK2QbcXtz69gb6Kvqe-vMAPwYvE9sauypDSTdN-0_zYvdtV26fdDecK73rv4_Ja8pz8xf4K



My tree after regreting (lvl 85):

https://www.poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgAAAdwC0AOHCC4JWAqbEdUUUhcdGNsZLhutG_ol3yftKCoppTIJNJM1kjXvNro4ljrtPC1Hfkp9SshOKlPfV5dY21uvXLBc-WBBY3BkWmVNZ6BsRm20bmluqnBycmxyqXSueA1463zZfr2BQYLkhNmHdoqvkAqQEZVml_6bapuDm42kGalurKq18rZBtxe3Pr2Bvoq-p768wA_Bi8T2xq7KkNJN037T_Ni921Xbp90N5wrveu_j8pz8xf4Kbpf3vv6PTeOmVzGeTP-vbMWK

I will grab Lust for Carnage to switch with a non LL Amulet to get one with more dmg.
Some extra Life nodes from Path of the warrior instead of Herbalism.

Next aim will be Amplify to run with Concentrated Effect.


The flasks i am using:




Suggestions would be nice.

Hey I'm new to this game, and my first character ever is a blender.

I am level 61, and find that the best DPS skill seems to be cleave (With concentrated effect, faster attacks, multistrike, fire damage). People have suggested to me I use dual strike, but never got the same amount of DPS I get with cleave, due to dual strike needing melee splash.

The build I am following is this:

https://www.poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgQAmSubLb2BFx1HfleXFFJgQWVNEdWE2b6nWNvv41PfY3CbgzSTtkFOKluvKaXdDRjb_MXBi3jrZ6C3Fwqbh3Zc-Up9ZFo4lpAKOu1ttDXvgUGkGRv6Jd8yCXJsbEapbngNvooB3Ni9NZK18v4KpldN4_6PMZ48Lcautz5-vZf-KCpyqayqJ-3E9ocZbBb8S-965wrTfpVmA4dwchutTGAEsU2SI_ajio195FFnm5tqi0-QdOeufNn-un110k3AD_dNditBdICKJJvcc2eAqAeDfDboAedYr8zbdn_yRTrh

Somebody posted a good build very similar to this, but for swords only. I changed it a little to make axes viable too, because I would like option of using ST. (This build has +434% damage overall, +134% attack speed overall, while the one with swords is +553% damage overall, +152% attack speed overall. very similar tankyness). I'm not sure if that DPS loss is worth it.

Any tips regarding pretty much anything would be greatly appreciated.

Noob questions:

I'm a big noob.

Thank you :)

1:I find if I don't have a mana leech gem with my cleave, i go oom really quick, what is a solution for this? (Aside from ST)

A: U have the possibility to link a Blood Magic Support Gem. With this us will spend life instead of mana for supported skills. If u have enough life leech it shouldn't be a problem to sustain it.

2:Immortal call and cwdt confuse me, did I mess up by leveling those gems up?? what other gems link well with those 2?

A: Use Immortal call with Enduring Cry or Increased Duration. Both of them will increase the duration of Immortal Call. In case of leveling CWDT, let it on lvl 1. CWDT proc linked skill gems with the lower or same level. That means, that u don't want to level linked skilles above a level requirement of 31. The lower the level of CWDT is the less dmg u need to take proc the linked gems.

3:Is having 2 auras only a thing if I have ST?

A: I m currently running Hatred and Grace. For more Auras i have not enough Mana. If i solo farm Dominus i run with Grace, Purity of Lighning ( Losing res cause of IIR/IIQ gear) and Herald of Ashe. Normally i think, Hatred and Grace will be the best. If u have enough mana to run another Aura, take Herald of Ashe.

4:Is bloodrage something worth looking into for a cleave blender?

A: Blood Rage could be an option. But with too less life regeneration i would not use this Gem. I ran with Blood Rage to compensate the missing life leech. But then i took the Blood Dance boots since they give u life regeneration per Frenzy Charge.

5:What can I do about blue gems (such as conc. effect) needing so much int?

A: Try to get Intelligence on rings or amulets looking for pure Int affix or a hybrid one. The other option is to take the big Int nodes in the passive tree which grant u +30 int.


Correct me if i am wrong. :)
Gratz

this build for the cyclone is going pretty good, I lucked out in rampage early on when a soul taker dropped. Since this isn't getting updated at least we can discuss the build here I guess.

I'm lvl 87 in Rampage, my gear other than the ST, BoR and boots really isn't that great and I'm able to do 78 maps with difficult mods, although I can't do the bosses on them. I can't do atziri either, insta died.

But once I get the rest of the gear in order (might be awhile who knows), this should be ok.

It's not crazy good or anything, I'm only at about 22K DPS with this setup

gear



tree, I plan to get the herbalism life node over by the ranger area for the next 4 level ups if I get that far lol.

Hi,

i'm building a more tankier variant of this build.
I'm at 5,3k life over 11k armour and capped resistances.
Currently i'm going with Cyclone at ~27k DPS.

This is my current gear:


Now to my request:
I wanted to upgrade my rare 1h-Axe.
For this i can think of 2 directions:

1. Buying a Doryani's Catalyst
- combines well with the Added Fire-Damage-Gem and the Hatred-Aura
- will increase elemental damage by 80-100% which is huge!
- can also go up to 320pdps which means no loss in Physical Damage
- i have no skilltree specialisation in swords/axes (so mace is okay too)
- may only cost up to 20ex
- problems i see: i will do more elemental damage than physical and that means i might get problems with elemental reflect mods. Also many monsters have resistances against ele damage, that's why i think physical might be superior.

2. Buying a physical damage weapon:
- with the new master crafting i might be able to get a physical only weapon with up to 450 phys. dps
- more phys --> increased cold/fire damage too
- cost may be a bit higher like 30-50ex

Does anybody has some experience made themselves about this decision?
I really can't decide because i'm not sure of the possible damage outcome yet.

Edit: What is considered a good DPS on Cyclone? (shown DPS not multplicated by 2)
I feel that i should/could do more damage than i do now.

You have no phys on rings, ammy or gloves. That's a huge loss right there, I'd work on that before replacing wep. Also consider a sword since axes make cyclone have baby radius.
I run ming's heart and blood rage, phys dmg on ring/ammy and gloves. 43k cyclone with weapon ele, 35k without. Only dps aura I run is hatred.
My weapon isn't amazing by any means but it's gonna take awhile to get a decent upgrade.

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What's the current thoughts with cleave vs cyclone vs dual strike for this build (I think assuming you have ST and don't have mana concerns)? All 3 are definitely viable this go-around.

Cleave and dual strike seem like they can be directly compared. I personally get more damage out of cleave set-up compared to dual strike with this build.

Always hard to compare to cyclone as the numbers are significantly different for cyclone. The one nice thing about cyclone is you can toss in life on hit to give yourself some more survivability, but cyclone is inherently more dangerous as you have to commit a bit more against a pack than with cleave or dual strike.

Would love any thoughts.