Official Blender Post! Lets theory craft for 1.2! 123k Cleave DPS!

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Last edited by david112t#2881 on Aug 19, 2014, 6:55:59 PM
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david112t wrote:



1st build. if you're going for swords, you should try to invest in going for the bottom right sword nodes. They are very efficient

2nd build. The whole left side of the tree you traveled the tree very inefficiently. There are way too many points spent in to 10 strength nodes. You achieved only 120% life when you invest heavily towards the marauder tree. If you ever dip in to marauder you should be really high on the life totals. 150+
Preliminary build -- opting for Phys Cleave + Dual Wield here, using high attack speed weapons.

https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgQAMglybGxGqW54Db6KAdyfo6efmSsXHZstEdVgQVeXvqfAD9JNY3Dv472BXznd4xRSR37KkGVNhNmbg1PfWNsFLWBLeu907YTv5cXXfsEHIWBAoGMX9Ub7_BvIXhMppU4qtkFDMc_4XosSIBLhYSGBOm1KiO0bqmFS705TuzgbTLG_1R3KKNvf77XySshuqti9NZL-Ck3j_o-mVzrtbbQ174FBwYsY21uv0_xcsAlY26dW6J-C4JXMBnLDqwvdDWeAqAeDfDboWK8=

Def low on life (94%)
2% life regen/sec
+48 All Resistances (other than Chaos)

+158% Physical Sword Damage
+199% Phys Damage while Dual Wielding
+28% 1H Melee Phys. Damage
+41% Melee Phys. Damage
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+426% physical damage overall (as long as wielding 2 1HS)

+40% Attack Speed
+8% Melee Attack Speed
+36% Attack Speed while Dual Wielding
+16% Sword Attack Speed
+3% Melee Attack Speed
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+103% Attack Speed (as long as wielding 2 1HS)

This is before bandits or anything else. I know it needs more life, definitely, and probably more changes.

Tweak away!
Last edited by shinino#3448 on Aug 19, 2014, 7:24:37 PM
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shinino wrote:
Preliminary build -- opting for Phys Cleave + Dual Wield here, using high attack speed weapons.

https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgQAMglybGxGqW54Db6KAdyfo6efmSsXHZstEdVgQVeXvqfAD9JNY3Dv472BXznd4xRSR37KkGVNhNmbg1PfWNsFLWBLeu907YTv5cXXfsEHIWBAoGMX9Ub7_BvIXhMppU4qtkFDMc_4XosSIBLhYSGBOm1KiO0bqmFS705TuzgbTLG_1R3KKNvf77XySshuqti9NZL-Ck3j_o-mVzrtbbQ174FBwYsY21uv0_xcsAlY26dW6J-C4JXMBnLDqwvdDWeAqAeDfDboWK8=

Def low on life (94%)
2% life regen/sec
+48 All Resistances (other than Chaos)

+158% Physical Sword Damage
+199% Phys Damage while Dual Wielding
+28% 1H Melee Phys. Damage
+41% Melee Phys. Damage
------
+426% physical damage overall (as long as wielding 2 1HS)

+40% Attack Speed
+8% Melee Attack Speed
+36% Attack Speed while Dual Wielding
+16% Sword Attack Speed
+3% Melee Attack Speed
====
+103% Attack Speed (as long as wielding 2 1HS)

This is before bandits or anything else. I know it needs more life, definitely, and probably more changes.

Tweak away!


I just dont think hanging around the duelist area is very good. There really good things at the ranger area you are missing out on. esp for swords. same with missing out on marauder stuff

Made picture a picture of my thoughts
http://imgur.com/tRqbDVq
Last edited by toosneaky#3908 on Aug 19, 2014, 9:42:06 PM
Okay, updated:

https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgQAMglybGxGqW54DZkrFx2bLRHVYEFXl76nwA_STWNw7-O9gV853eMUUkd-ypBlTYTZm4NT31jbhO8byF4TKaVOKrZBQzFhIR3KKNvf77XySshuqluvVuifguCVzAZyw6sL3Q1ngKgHg3w26FivZKMaVUp9h3ZnoPzF2L01ktN-73ruDlb6G61I7niulWYDh3ByTGAEsaOKTZIj9ucPBu7cvTGwy_XUUjB8jX0CEZdwo-dE0gMnfNlyqfcy6hj46xRxDjw6UocZbBb8SyftrKr3vm6X8pw2uhku

This time, taking Oak all the way:

Only 24 resists this time (may have to fix that) (Losing 24)
104% added life, with 1% regen/sec, and 3% life leech (gaining 10% with life leech) (but losing 1% regen)

Total added damage now (160 + 18 + 95 + 64 + 61) = 398% (losing 28%)
Attack Speed now (48 + 8 + 17 + 24 + 17) = 114% (gaining 11%)

So it helped /some/ but ... not sure how much, especially given that with the original tree and JUST adding bandits we have:

94% Added life, 48 Allres, 2% Regen/Sec.
Added Damage (158 + 18 + 199 + 28 + 41) = 444%
Attack Speed (40 + 8 + 36 + 16 + 3) = 103%

So granted, RT is very very useful, but ... I dunno
to be honest... i looked all of the recent build posted,

and i like mine overall what i saw.

(HARDCORE)

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgQAmSubLb2BR34UUmVNhNluab6n7-NjcDSTtkFOKluv3Q0Y2yzpkAr8xcGLFSBW-meg26eBQSpN7g6HdglYNe8_J6OKSn1csG20SshMYCP20_w67W6qBLFNko19tfKVZjB8NZLf7wOHfyvUUlFH_o_YvSjbcHIbrdaKy_WNv03j_godytN-MbAFtd3nple3Pn113L3C7NQjG_Yxnsau_roG7rTFMHGDvTwt5w9irN2oxPZM_2yMS3gn7a9sOkKsqvxLxYpyqWwW8B982YcZBLOiALT5FE0CcYM473w8BZ_f


You can play around with more Dps/Life nodes has you wish.

Very HIGH Block
+/- 171% life
Acrobatics
Phase Acrobatics
Ondal's Guile
RT
Amplify
Last edited by 1mark#6381 on Aug 19, 2014, 10:15:27 PM
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1mark wrote:
to be honest... i looked all of the recent build posted,

and i like mine overall what i saw.

(HARDCORE)

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgQAmSubLb2BR34UUmVNhNluab6n7-NjcDSTtkFOKluv3Q0Y2yzpkAr8xcGLFSBW-meg26eBQSpN7g6HdglYNe8_J6OKSn1csG20SshMYCP20_w67W6qBLFNko19tfKVZjB8NZLf7wOHfyvUUlFH_o_YvSjbcHIbrdaKy_WNv03j_godytN-MbAFtd3nple3Pn113L3C7NQjG_Yxnsau_roG7rTFMHGDvTwt5w9irN2oxPZM_2yMS3gn7a9sOkKsqvxLxYpyqWwW8B982YcZBLOiALT5FE0CcYM473w8BZ_f


You can play around with more Dps/Life nodes has you wish.

Very HIGH Block
+/- 171% life
Acrobatics
Phase Acrobatics
Ondal's Guile
RT
Amplify


It's definitely a survivable class, but why no Iron Reflexes? Your stats are split between Dex and Str, but everything else is evasion, which means if anything hits you, it's going to crush you. I'd definitely consider throwing a point into IR, especially as the tree passes it. You'll also need that extra life, due to much less attack speed = Much less damage.

I think what we're all forgetting is the extra life we're going to be getting from leveling. I mean, level 60 used to be 480 life before everything, and now it's 600. You're seeing a flat 50% more life JUST from leveling. So if you had 150% life before and had, say, 500 life from armor (i'm just pulling #s out of my ass here), you'd have (980 * 2.5 = ) 2450 life. Now, with only 100% added life, everything else being the same, you're going to see (1100 * 2.0 = ) 2200 life

So I think the added life is seriously going to be boosting us more than we're thinking.

I'm going to look in-game at a character I have /right now/ for a better comparison.
I did a little min/max to the glass cannon build on the frount page

I lost 8% att speed but we gained +8 fire res + 1 max fire res and 13%life, more then doubled the life regen,15% stun an block recover and 30% to avoid stuns.

I think thats worth lossing 8% att speed over

https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgQAmSubLb2BFx1Hft3jV5cUUl85YEFlTRHVhNm-p1jbJd_STe_jU98b-sAPY3Cbg6QZNJMB3LZBvopOKngNW68ppalu3Q0Y22xGtfKQCvzFwYt08XJsbqo1knjrZ6C3F9ungUEhYDIJSsjYvQqbh3Zc-QlYNe8SIP4K5wpKfWRaXLBttF6Ltz7vejiW0_w67c_4xq7TfjwtdK5wcsT2l_7bVQOHJ-0oKn69AtAbrZVmrKqbaggucqlnm5uNfNnkUVBU567pfJB0VAuLTyECe4z8S2wWhxn-un11


let me know what you all think

I hope this helps
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NinjaMouse91 wrote:
I did a little min/max to the glass cannon build on the frount page

I lost 8% att speed but we gained +8 fire res + 1 max fire res and 13%life, more then doubled the life regen,15% stun an block recover and 30% to avoid stuns.

I think thats worth lossing 8% att speed over

https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgQAmSubLb2BFx1Hft3jV5cUUl85YEFlTRHVhNm-p1jbJd_STe_jU98b-sAPY3Cbg6QZNJMB3LZBvopOKngNW68ppalu3Q0Y22xGtfKQCvzFwYt08XJsbqo1knjrZ6C3F9ungUEhYDIJSsjYvQqbh3Zc-QlYNe8SIP4K5wpKfWRaXLBttF6Ltz7vejiW0_w67c_4xq7TfjwtdK5wcsT2l_7bVQOHJ-0oKn69AtAbrZVmrKqbaggucqlnm5uNfNnkUVBU567pfJB0VAuLTyECe4z8S2wWhxn-un11


let me know what you all think

I hope this helps


The points spent getting gallantry is not efficient.

I've highlighted in the below picture two other paths you can take with the 5 points spent there.


EDIT: Sorry the right cluster is 6 points but, you can still spend 5points for 8atk speed + 15%life.
http://i.imgur.com/D4Hmodf.jpg
Last edited by toosneaky#3908 on Aug 20, 2014, 3:31:03 AM
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toosneaky wrote:
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NinjaMouse91 wrote:
I did a little min/max to the glass cannon build on the frount page

I lost 8% att speed but we gained +8 fire res + 1 max fire res and 13%life, more then doubled the life regen,15% stun an block recover and 30% to avoid stuns.

I think thats worth lossing 8% att speed over

https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgQAmSubLb2BFx1Hft3jV5cUUl85YEFlTRHVhNm-p1jbJd_STe_jU98b-sAPY3Cbg6QZNJMB3LZBvopOKngNW68ppalu3Q0Y22xGtfKQCvzFwYt08XJsbqo1knjrZ6C3F9ungUEhYDIJSsjYvQqbh3Zc-QlYNe8SIP4K5wpKfWRaXLBttF6Ltz7vejiW0_w67c_4xq7TfjwtdK5wcsT2l_7bVQOHJ-0oKn69AtAbrZVmrKqbaggucqlnm5uNfNnkUVBU567pfJB0VAuLTyECe4z8S2wWhxn-un11


let me know what you all think

I hope this helps


The points spent getting gallantry is not efficient.

I've highlighted in the below picture two other paths you can take with the 5 points spent there.


EDIT: Sorry the right cluster is 6 points but, you can still spend 5points for 8atk speed + 15%life.
http://i.imgur.com/D4Hmodf.jpg


Ah thankyou my friend. always good to have more eyes looking :)

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