[2.0]Rathik's NEWBIE FRIENDLY FUN&CHEAP FARMER, DPS Summoner. High AOE DMG, SURVIVAL."The Matriarch"

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M1chaelFr33man wrote:

Good day to everybody=)
I am very sorry(maybe somebody asked this question, but it's too difficult to read 250 pages), but is this guide still actual in 1.3? Or maybe there is another fresh newbie friendly guide, give me a link please.
thanks=)

Its updated for 1.3. It says so on the topics title and in the very first quoted paragraph :).

99/100 of the times, if the skill tree is working then the guides (in general) are up to date.

The guide was written back in the beta so some of the gems are not listed, feel free to experiment with them.

E.G Increased Item Quantity gem has been removed from drops. You can either buy a legacy one or you can go with a DPS/Life leech gem.

you can go low life with solaris lorica. it works just fine and costs 1 chaos instead of 100 exalt for a shavronne. i know because i have done that just after torment league ended.



used this shield i found in a fellshrine run in act 2 had well over 5k es with solaric lorica and that is more than enough.

i went back to ci because there was little to gain from going low life when i have my legacy mf items in standard and the league had ended.

but if anyone is interested in taking the low life approach it's very much viable with just a solaris lorica. you certainly don't need shavronne chest which is overrated and only 0,1% of players can afford it anyway.

this one is nice for the life build i think. never tried it though but perfect stats for mf.
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Greed%27s_Embrace

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Bowman8763 wrote:

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JNF wrote:

This guide was bad before, but it's really bad now that it's been updated.

Lol I know this was a while ago but...+1

Be the judge for yourself. Current optimized tree for 1.3:



Far more es without sacrificing any minion passives. Even more relevant in the beta realm due to minion aggro being changed. Minions no longer pull aggro from mobs, leaving your character more susceptible to dying. You're welcome.

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JNF wrote:

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Bowman8763 wrote:

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JNF wrote:

This guide was bad before, but it's really bad now that it's been updated.

Lol I know this was a while ago but...+1

Be the judge for yourself. Current optimized tree for 1.3:

Spoiler

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1238078

Far more es without sacrificing any minion passives. Even more relevant in the beta realm due to minion aggro being changed. Minions no longer pull aggro from mobs, leaving your character more susceptible to dying. You're welcome.

That skill tree has 14% increased ES and 35% max life, on a CI build, hardly "Far more es without sacrificing any minion passives". And why would anyone in there right mind would think of sacrificing minion passives?

To get your 14% ES and your 35% max life on a CI build, you sacrificed the following:

10 DEX <---
80 INT (40 mana + 16% ES)
60 increased mana <---
40% increased mana regen <---
10% increased faster recharge time <---
42% increased evasion rating
36% increased armour rating
16% all resistances <---
5% increased movement speed <---
28% increased max mana <---
2% increased evasion from DEX


Here is a side by side comparison, skill tree taken directly from the so called "guide" you advertise in other peoples topics.

Matriarch build is on the left.



Personally I would take all of these instead of the 14% ES and 35% max life on a CI build.
Actually all the people I know that play this game would take these instead of the 14% ES and 35% max life on a CI build.


I don't know, maybe you have some secret information on how increased max life benefit a CI build, if you do, by all means, feel free to explain it to people, in another topic though, not here.
I am sure people will rush to read and find out more, me not so much, I am a stubborn person, I tend to do things my way.


I don't know what your problem is with me and frankly I don't give a fuck so no need to explain.


Anyway, I hope this information was useful for you in some way... or not. What ever.

Now shoo.



You're most definitely, NOT welcome.

Can't find CI build skill tree.

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DurchFalloutBoy wrote:

Can't find CI build skill tree.

Section "Witch "The Matriarch Build" End game build, not to be used for leveling."

Since IIQ on items has been removed from the game, would you still recommend ES + CI at endgame?

In your "CI v Life" section you mention it's easier to itemise for IIQ + IIR with ES instead of life, but that's simply now a null point since IIQ items have been removed (I'm not even going to consider the idea of buying legacy IIQ items).

Do you not think a combination of life + ES and not going CI would now be better, since you can now only roll IIR on items?

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Hazzerone wrote:

Since IIQ on items has been removed from the game, would you still recommend ES + CI at endgame?

In your "CI v Life" section you mention it's easier to itemise for IIQ + IIR with ES instead of life, but that's simply now a null point since IIQ items have been removed (I'm not even going to consider the idea of buying legacy IIQ items).

Do you not think a combination of life + ES and not going CI would now be better, since you can now only roll IIR on items?

Even with the removal of IIQ is still easier to itemize as CI.
You still have to worry about life and chaos res if you go life.

As I said in the first post

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Of course nothing is stopping you to add IIR/IIQ on a life build, it will just make itemization harder and much more expensive to match a CI build.

Both builds have exactly the same minion passives, the damage output is the same.
Its up to you if you want to go CI or life.

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Hazzerone wrote:

Since IIQ on items has been removed from the game, would you still recommend ES + CI at endgame?

In your "CI v Life" section you mention it's easier to itemise for IIQ + IIR with ES instead of life, but that's simply now a null point since IIQ items have been removed (I'm not even going to consider the idea of buying legacy IIQ items).

Do you not think a combination of life + ES and not going CI would now be better, since you can now only roll IIR on items?

both ci and life are equally viable. i prefer ci because you are immune to poison and can get much more hit points.

you can still stack a bunch of iiq from uniques. all these items drop in the current version of the game.



goldwyrm 14-20%
greed 10-15%
perandu 6-8%
sadima 12-16

total 42-59%

maybe i missed some other item too.

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kompaniet wrote:

you can still stack a bunch of iiq from uniques. all these items drop in the current version of the game.

goldwyrm 14-20%
greed 10-15%
perandu 6-8%
sadima 12-16

total 42-59%

maybe i missed some other item too.

No way would a CI build take greed because the loss of ES on the chest would be wayyy too much of a detriment.

I'll look into transitioning into CI though, thanks.