[2.0]Rathik's NEWBIE FRIENDLY FUN&CHEAP FARMER, DPS Summoner. High AOE DMG, SURVIVAL."The Matriarch"

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JNF wrote:

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Rathik2 wrote:

You are really a funny kid. :)
You are still wrong though.

Thanks for the free bump.

You should stick to comedy, because your ability to min-max builds is far inferior. I'm no more of a kid than your build is optimized.

My sig for a superior summoner tree.

Enjoy the "free bump", junior.

Thanks for the bump, and yea, your max life stats and minimum ES gains for the cost of shit load of stats on that lame build is clearly min maxing.

I find it funny you need to advertise it in other peoples topic in order to get some views in LOL.

Anyway, consider this my final reply to you.

You bore me.

Anyone theorycrafting how to make these builds work in 2.0 with the loss of reduced mana gem for auras? Looks like you'll be able to use two auras at the most.

I've got to get my summoner truly endgame viable but the loss of multiple auras is really making it hard.

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MrSparkle001 wrote:

Anyone theorycrafting how to make these builds work in 2.0 with the loss of reduced mana gem for auras? Looks like you'll be able to use two auras at the most.

I've got to get my summoner truly endgame viable but the loss of multiple auras is really making it hard.

No worries.
I am working on something. Build will be just fine, it might even be stronger.
I never update the guide until there is a full release, since is still beta, thing might change, so no need to waste time on hypothetical builds.

It looks something like this






Nothing is final yet, not until the expansion is fully released.

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Rathik2 wrote:

Thanks for the bump, and yea, your max life stats and minimum ES gains for the cost of shit load of stats on that lame build is clearly min maxing.

I find it funny you need to advertise it in other peoples topic in order to get some views in LOL.

Anyway, consider this my final reply to you.

You bore me.

Yes, keep dancing around my statements with insults because you lack the proper argument. People who bore easily do so for a reason. Think on that before your next thoughtless reply.

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JNF wrote:

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Rathik2 wrote:

Thanks for the bump, and yea, your max life stats and minimum ES gains for the cost of shit load of stats on that lame build is clearly min maxing.

I find it funny you need to advertise it in other peoples topic in order to get some views in LOL.

Anyway, consider this my final reply to you.

You bore me.

Yes, keep dancing around my statements with insults because you lack the proper argument. People who bore easily do so for a reason. Think on that before your next thoughtless reply.

You didn't give any arguments except for stupid ones.
I even provided screenshots.

You think some minimum amount of ES is better than all the rest, I don't.
I have done this argument in this topic many times, you are not the first one who has tried to argue on those ES nodes. I said it before to them and I am saying it to you again, only the 16% all res is worth a lot more. You are failing to see how much it helps on itemization. It allows you to boost your IIR/IIQ even more.

You think MI is not good, I think is good. It turns skeletons into a big nuke which is a huge DPS boost when your zombies die.
I want my minions to die and explode and if the zombies die, you have skeletons for back up that you can summon right in the face of a boss to block him coming towards you and he also takes damage from skeletons when they die. Its just another tool in your arsenal.

You need 3 nodes to get the extra curse and I took them, you can't take any less, there for, they ARE essential, if you don't want the extra curse, don't take it, simple as that. I want the extra curse. I don't know how to get the extra curse with out using 3 skills to get it, please show me.

Also

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JNF wrote:

This guide was bad before, but it's really bad now that it's been updated.

This is your first post. You posted something disrespectful with out providing any info or a valid argument on why it is bad and I replied to you in a manner you deserved to be replied. You replied with hate and malice.

You could have said for example "Why did you take those nodes instead of these nodes" like many other people did before you and have a respectful conversation like others did before.

And I never danced around, I have already made the same arguments many times before in this topic, go back in posts and you will find them. If you only took the time to search this topic a bit you wouldn't say that.

You are a disrespectful person, with no manners and immature.

Believe me, you will make a better impression on people if you don't insult them the first time you talk to them. Of course this is my opinion, you are free to disagree.

Regards

Actually, I gave you a very logical argument. Your argument was "huehuehue get more stats, newb", which is actually the stupid argument because why would you need extra intelligence? More mana regen so you can keep spamming Raise Zombie when they all die in higher level maps due to Minion Instability and only having 2/3 of their normal life pool? You actually do need the higher %es to keep from getting one shotted in higher level maps, but you wouldn't know that because you're a casual who gets carried in parties. I remember when this build was "the ultimate culler" and you revised it for 1.3, but you did it in a half-assed fashion. It's sub par and it'll be even worse when 2.0 hits, because your minions no longer pull as much monster aggro. Have fun getting one shotted in 68 maps with your crap build.

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JNF wrote:

Actually, I gave you a very logical argument. Your argument was "huehuehue get more stats, newb", which is actually the stupid argument because why would you need extra intelligence? More mana regen so you can keep spamming Raise Zombie when they all die in higher level maps due to Minion Instability and only having 2/3 of their normal life pool? You actually do need the higher %es to keep from getting one shotted in higher level maps, but you wouldn't know that because you're a casual who gets carried in parties. I remember when this build was "the ultimate culler" and you revised it for 1.3, but you did it in a half-assed fashion. It's sub par and it'll be even worse when 2.0 hits, because your minions no longer pull as much monster aggro. Have fun getting one shotted in 68 maps with your crap build.

It ALWAYS had the same ES nodes (Faith of steel and Nullification) and minion nodes. The build was never revised, it only adapted with the skill changes and with every skill change it actually got stronger. Also INT gives ES and mana.
Stop lying.

Tumiya is arguing the same ES nodes as you are doing now.
First post on second page. 28 July 2013 14:19. Thats 1 day after the guide was online.

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/479976/page/2#p4246110

And I never claimed it was "the ultimate culler" build. I even said

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For some builds culling comes natural, a sporker all it has to do is equip a culling weapon and be done with it. Fast attack bow users also have it easy.

Summoners on the other hand need to play around there culling, you need to plan ahead and keep your eyes open. Personally I find this game play much more fun and interesting rather than dual totem, etc.

Stop lying.

As I said before.

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You are a disrespectful person, with no manners and immature.

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JNF wrote:

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Rathik2 wrote:

Thanks for the bump, and yea, your max life stats and minimum ES gains for the cost of shit load of stats on that lame build is clearly min maxing.

I find it funny you need to advertise it in other peoples topic in order to get some views in LOL.

Anyway, consider this my final reply to you.

You bore me.

Yes, keep dancing around my statements with insults because you lack the proper argument. People who bore easily do so for a reason. Think on that before your next thoughtless reply.

He posted a side by side comparison to demonstrate how your build is inferior, suck it up and learn from your mistake. I'd be bored too if I had to argue with someone that was pig-headedly wrong. (ES argument)

MI is a playstyle choice (not my preference). There is no right or wrong choice with respect to that, you can be equally effective with/without it provided you adjust your playstyle to suit.

bro 1st of all i would like to say props to you and for a very DETAILED build guide, thanks, very easy to follow and read even for newbies like me.. i enjoyed reading it from the top all the way to the comments section..

just one question, i would like to run this build but i would like to run it as low life ES, so i can get more aura for my minions, but still broke and dont have enough money for shavronnes, can i run it using Solaris Lorica?? what are the cons when i use only solaris and will it be hard for me if i do it in HC?? would i do it or should i just stick with CI if i dont have Shavs for low life??

p.s. nice power leveling guide also, i can say is facebreakers are the way to go on leveling, had a facebreaker b4 and it will really take you to merciless without any hassles, and the items for that are very cheap (except for the belt in HC) but u can do it very easily, even using only rare iron rings with double +phys rolls on them.. goldrim, foxshade, lioneye's paws are the way to go..

pls reply in my comment, really want to try this build...

thank u for the build and more power.. (bro fist!)

I didn't lie about anything. You're a sore loser, on top of being arrogant. Good day, sir.