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Redblade wrote:

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Gulruon wrote:

You seem to be very confused: this does not hurt you in relation to other sources of lightning. Anyone who is building around this will make up the negative resists; it is not negative MAX resists, just negative resists.

In fact, because they have to build around shock and will likely be using lightning flasks as normal survival tools, someone using this chest will likely be MORE RESILIENT to normal sources of lightning damage.

I'm not confused at all, stop assuming you're the smartest guy in the room talking down to the others...

Sure if you build entirely around being shock stacked continuously it will work, I just don't see the benefit over having more armor, life and resists. We simply disagree on it's usefulness and nothing you or anyone else says will change my mind in that regard.

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Hodari wrote:

Probably about as well as CI on a blood magic map. Obviously CI sucks too...

Not even comparable, flawed logic is flawed.

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Guioki wrote:

Assuming of course younhave enough armour from other sources with a flat armour chest. The only problem witn your calcs is your taking the other base mitigation as being unchanged with lower ar/hp/resists. Also have to take into accountbthe statsbyou lose stacking more resists on other items which could be str or mf rolls etc.

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Gulruon wrote:

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Hodari wrote:

Probably about as well as CI on a blood magic map. Obviously CI sucks too...

Actually, as I explain in the post above mine, unless you are running it without max resists (aka, using the unique without building around it.....) you are actually probably better off than the average character on that map, since you likely are fighting with 91% lightning resist and have a way to either eliminate or mitigate shock =P

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Hodari wrote:

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Gulruon wrote:

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Hodari wrote:

Probably about as well as CI on a blood magic map. Obviously CI sucks too...

Actually, as I explain in the post above mine, unless you are running it without max resists (aka, using the unique without building around it.....) you are actually probably better off than the average character on that map, since you likely are fighting with 91% lightning resist and have a way to either eliminate or mitigate shock =P

Maybe, my point though was that even if you assume that it would be an especially bad map mod for that build, having one map mod you can't run doesn't make a build/item bad. You just reroll the map to something you can run or trade it to someone else.

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Gulruon wrote:

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Guioki wrote:

Assuming of course younhave enough armour from other sources with a flat armour chest. The only problem witn your calcs is your taking the other base mitigation as being unchanged with lower ar/hp/resists. Also have to take into accountbthe statsbyou lose stacking more resists on other items which could be str or mf rolls etc.

From my knowledge, the chest in the picture is on the low end in terms of rolls (both life and armor/evasion). If you are going full armor, you can pick up Iron Reflexes to potentially turn it into a fairly decent "pure-armor" chest (though having no evasion makes you much more susceptible to shock, so I am not sure I would suggest this unless you are using the tricorne).

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Gulruon wrote:

You are disagreeing with math, and your argument is basically "I am saying it, so it is right". Sorry, that just kind of irritates me. Present a reasonable argument and I promise I will be nicer!

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Redblade wrote:

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Gulruon wrote:

You are disagreeing with math, and your argument is basically "I am saying it, so it is right". Sorry, that just kind of irritates me. Present a reasonable argument and I promise I will be nicer!

I'm not disagreeing with math at all, I'm saying unless you specifically gear and build your character around getting shock stacked, a lot, it's a bad chest in comparison to your average end game chest.

Now if you build your character around the fact that you are getting shock stacked a lot and use topaz flasks and what not you're already putting your self at a disadvantage on top of the already existing once through design on the chest it self.

The idea isn't bad in my opinion and the chest would probably have been really great before the life nerfs as you wouldn't have needed to go full out to counter the shock stacking issue. As it stands now I see way to many disadvantages for it to be better than you run of the mill end game chest.

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SL4Y3R wrote:

Nice chest.

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Dreggon wrote:

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SL4Y3R wrote:

Nice chest.

this gets me slapped : (