Tyr's **0.11.1** Pure Elemental Bow Spec

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Ahrimania wrote:

Whoever made it to this last line, thanks for perusing my wall of text.

Its the crabs which didn't/don't drop loot on shatter. They said they fixed this a few patches ago. Dont let it deter you from farming with ice shot in the slightest.

I'm sick of this, i have 500 armor and 1200 EV chest. 75+ all resits but chaos. And I can't complete damn ship graveyard. I keep exploding either from charges by murk runners or flickering strike hell. Screw this shit.

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CrownOfThorns wrote:

At lvl 45
With D-Harp
Using +7% Ice Shot > Chain > +6% Faster Arrows > + 7% Added Cold
I'm at around 270 DPS.

When I put on the D-Harp my DPS dropped. Does DPS not calculate the second arrow?

I am about the pick up the nodes give +elemental %. When does the DPS pick up.
Right now im lvl 45 with decent lvl 45 gear, with a D-Harp with some pretty crappy DPS. Only 750 HP, and most energy shield armor doesnt roll green so its a pain in the ass.

Just curious whati m missing here, my gems and bow is good, my quiver is pretty good. Yet, my DPS sucks and my survivability is worse.

The DPS in the tooltip doesn't reflect the possible damage from hitting both arrows. Only from one arrow. You can more or less double it against groups. It's accurate for single target though, sorta. If you manage to hit both shots on a single target then it's double DPS.
I feel your pain, I've been using AR+EV for most of the game. The only ES equipment I have are helm and gloves, bringing me to a grand total of ~100 ES and 1100 HP. If you're having problems surviving, you probably have to analyze your tactics and make changes depending on your situation. If you find yourself not being able to get an attack in, think about Spell Totem + Skeletons, Temporal Chains, or using a Ranged Totem to give you passive DPS.

Although Tyr does pick up quite a few HP nodes, we're still a little squishy. So we need a bit of a clever playstyle to survive.

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LukaszMeidlingr wrote:

Hi! I really like your build and Im planning on playing a similar character (somehow I dont like Rangers - but I wanted to do a bow char)

My Question is: Is Ice Shot/LA/BA/your main skill your attack vs groups and single targets?
I couldn't find any information that you have a Single target skill like EH, and only use the main skill as AoE dmg

Thanks!

I'm using Ice Shot + Chain + WED + Culling Strike for AoE and Burning Arrow + Faster Attacks + Faster Projectiles + Life Leech for single targets.
IIRC, Tyr is using Ice Shot + Chain + Ranged Totem and Lightning Arrow for everything.

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MorningLemon wrote:

I'm sick of this, i have 500 armor and 1200 EV chest. 75+ all resits but chaos. And I can't complete damn ship graveyard. I keep exploding either from charges by murk runners or flickering strike hell. Screw this shit.

^This.
Flicker Strike is hell. So are Leaping mobs. If you can't solo an area, make a party. That's what I did. I'm sure as hell not running in the Ship Graveyard alone to get insta-gimped. Fuck. That.



As a side note, I'm more than willing to stream my build for anyone who wants to watch. I took a bit of a different approach then Tyr, stacking all the Elemental Damage I can and altering his passives a bit. I'm a strict farmer so it's not exactly exciting to watch.
I'm "Mjytresz" in game.

EDIT: Also, these are the equips I'm running. I'm missing Chitus and Wakes, still. Also still working on 5-linking my armor and bow.

How the hell are you guys achieving such high dps values? I'm level 49 and my LA only does 250 dps. And only when it's not weakened by LMP

What am I doing wrong?

My gear:

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WhisperByte wrote:

How the hell are you guys achieving such high dps values? I'm level 49 and my LA only does 250 dps. And only when it's not weakened by LMP

What am I doing wrong?

My gear:

Spoiler

You're missing elemental damage on your gloves, belt, rings, and amulet. That's the only thing I can think of. The passives in the templar area actually add a lot to your DPS. Also, consider running Anger for the damage boost if you can support it.
I'm curious as to how your mana's doing with Clarity leveled so high.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/854/icedps.png/

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Yeah. my Clarity is a little bit overleveled but I still can sustain prolonged casting if there are big groups of enemies (thanks Soul Siphon). What level is it recommended to be kept at?

I don't have exalts and gcps to buy high ele dmg AND resists rings/ammy/belts/gloves so I've chosen survivability. Should I just switch to ele dmg instead?

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WhisperByte wrote:

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Yeah. my Clarity is a little bit overleveled but I still can sustain prolonged casting if there are big groups of enemies (thanks Soul Siphon). What level is it recommended to be kept at?

I don't have exalts and gcps to buy high ele dmg AND resists rings/ammy/belts/gloves so I've chosen survivability. Should I just switch to ele dmg instead?

I hear people saying it's good to keep it at Lvl 3 but I've never bothered to test it on my own. The first Clarity I got was at lvl 12 and reserved almost all the mana on my witch. I didn't pick up any mana passives so it's entirely my fault. QQ

As far as equips go, you should pick whatever you need. Personally, I just farm all day. There's not much in Fellshrine/Docks that'll take me from full to 0 in less than a second so I focused exclusively on elemental damage. The only reason those items have resists is because no other item came close to the damage it gave. I was able to afford all of that from just farming. The few quality gems I find and sell contribute substantially to my funds. Aside from that, I just vendor a lot of equipment and trade things up for jewelers/fusings and stockpile all the orbs I get.

If you need survivability, however, pick up resist rings and equips with ES/Life mods on them. If you aren't having any luck with those or don't have the funds for it, find a nice area that you can farm without risk of dying and steadily work on your character. I haven't even finished the first quest in Act 3 on Merciless yet. I don't plan to until I have Chitus or Wakes.

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MorningLemon wrote:

I'm sick of this, i have 500 armor and 1200 EV chest. 75+ all resits but chaos. And I can't complete damn ship graveyard. I keep exploding either from charges by murk runners or flickering strike hell. Screw this shit.

My Shadow is 59 right now and I can't really complain about survivability, though a rejunev totem is a must. In fact the only thing that kills me frequently are the Golems that roll over you... in theory, in pratice their rolling animation is broken (at about 100ms latency) and there's no way to dodge them because you can't see them coming in most cases.

Flickering crap can be done solo if you place your rejunev totem far in front of you and spam AoE as they approach it. This better works once your Totem gets more tanky in later levels (and obviously you need solid AoE damage). Granite Flask is also helpful for the ohshit moments.

There are also encounters that are pain in the ass for any kiting class (eg. bandits in act 2) and those are better done in group.

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vanzi wrote:

Flickering crap can be done solo if you place your rejunev totem far in front of you and spam AoE as they approach it. This better works once your Totem gets more tanky in later levels (and obviously you need solid AoE damage). Granite Flask is also helpful for the ohshit moments.

This is bullshit because this doesn't helps at all. And yes, my shadow is 59 at act 1. My Rejuv totem can be killed by single, SINGLE!, flickershit guy in 2 autoattacks. Granite Flask doesn't do shit either because either u dead by thousands flickers in 1 sec or u can do without it. Solid AoE damage after all is just mediocre like any marauder could have spamming ground slam.

Question about DH: Mine dropped yesterday with item-level 37. Now I read here of DH with an item-level of 50+

Do uniques come in different levels or are you talking about the level adjusted by the gems?