Tyr's **0.11.1** Pure Elemental Bow Spec

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Tyranthal wrote:
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Ghandi256 wrote:
So I'm starting to get a few extra skill points laying around at 72 now. Got a stupidly lucky DH drop at around 35 so this build was fate for this character. Only 1.5k damage but I'm blowing everything over. The 90 point build is where I'm at and so my question is...what now? Or next. I've noticed a few easy access damage nodes like CrC and a 15% projectile damage which (I'm not sure how that calculates or includes ele damage or +ele damage) could be good. I don't know I feel survivability is just unneeded and I want more damage but I want it optimally from the tree. Perhaps you could suggest a 100 point build because you've done a stellar job so far.

Most fun I've had since D2.


Whoa, awesome responses, thanks! I don't have much time right now but I wanted to respond to this cause it ties into a major change that I have tested extensively.

Get Static Blows & the additional 10% chance to shock bringing the chance to shock 20%. Im gonna post about this much more in depth later, but I believe there is a tweaked mechanic when shooting 2 LA & when they pierce. I think when one shocks, the other hits and hits again with the amplified shock damage. Im lvl 57 and am WRECKING The Cave, level 61. Static Blows has made all the difference. It works with any applied light dmg. So.,...ice shot totem bot is chaining everydamned thing, shocking them and then i whallop it all with LA.

Must have DH to test this. Almost certain the pierce is giving more hits than is intended. Test this, Ill post vids and comment on this much much more.

Again, get static blows. Everybody! Ill work up a build tweak as soon as I can.



I just connected the circle and am about to get those 6 points. Should I head north from that STR/AGIL nodeand go get 3/3 ? I use pierce already with LA its awesome.
Ok, I feel I'm doing pretty well, I'm following this guide pretty closely; I'm lvl 44 and I linked up and refunded with only 51 points; I skipped a bunch of the stuff.

I managed to pull a 125% PD death's harp, and I just had a nice ammy and some 25% move speed boots drop for me. I'm currently using ice shot and poison shot, and I'm not running any auras at the moment. Here's my current tree: http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYABAcFOg5ID6sRLxGWFr8eGh8CJ6kqWy0fMtE2xUVHRtdMs1M1VUtdxmHibRltbG17cFJ_xoSvh9uIa4w2naOeoaKjpwivm7UEtUi297iTwFHB88XM0hnW0dgk44TndOvu8-r8q_-T. Obviously I've skipped a bunch of stuff, but things are looking pretty good so far.

I'm rolling through act 2 cruel, and my primary concern is bumping up my DPS; I'm sitting ~300 DPS w/ ice shot and 350 w/ poison. Not having much problem with death, as I can outrun most critters, and bear trap, rejuv totem, and such are taking care of the rest. Poison + ice + DH arrows make for pretty nice kiting.


My questions are- what should I be focusing on gear and skill wise to push my DPS up? What should I focus on for next acquisitions? I'm currently using an item rarity gem linked to both ice and poison, rather than a DPS gem. I don't have chain yet, but I could focus on that next (it's silly expensive), so, what should I be looking at for my improvements?

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Tyranthal wrote:
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Ghandi256 wrote:
So I'm starting to get a few extra skill points laying around at 72 now. Got a stupidly lucky DH drop at around 35 so this build was fate for this character. Only 1.5k damage but I'm blowing everything over. The 90 point build is where I'm at and so my question is...what now? Or next. I've noticed a few easy access damage nodes like CrC and a 15% projectile damage which (I'm not sure how that calculates or includes ele damage or +ele damage) could be good. I don't know I feel survivability is just unneeded and I want more damage but I want it optimally from the tree. Perhaps you could suggest a 100 point build because you've done a stellar job so far.

Most fun I've had since D2.


Whoa, awesome responses, thanks! I don't have much time right now but I wanted to respond to this cause it ties into a major change that I have tested extensively.

Get Static Blows & the additional 10% chance to shock bringing the chance to shock 20%. Im gonna post about this much more in depth later, but I believe there is a tweaked mechanic when shooting 2 LA & when they pierce. I think when one shocks, the other hits and hits again with the amplified shock damage. Im lvl 57 and am WRECKING The Cave, level 61. Static Blows has made all the difference. It works with any applied light dmg. So.,...ice shot totem bot is chaining everydamned thing, shocking them and then i whallop it all with LA.

Must have DH to test this. Almost certain the pierce is giving more hits than is intended. Test this, Ill post vids and comment on this much much more.

Again, get static blows. Everybody! Ill work up a build tweak as soon as I can.


I think you are, there are sometimes when I hit a crit on a grouped up boss pack with Projectile weakness proc'd and everything just...explodes. As I said I only have ~ 1.5k but I have 1 shot boss packs before on crits. It doesn't happen all the time but I wonder if the way shock applies has something to do with it. I actually ran pierce for a long time because of how strong it can be with LA. A well leveled projectile weakness sort of nullifies that however.

There is one tip out there I can give to anyone. I really don't enjoy burning arrow for single target damage especially with DH because of the targeting of it. Get the boss against a wall and the LA will proc hit the boss from terrain splash. With Projectile Weakness it's very easy to pin a rare against a wall and get potentially 3 hits with every shot fired, doing much more damage than BA would.
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Ghandi256 wrote:
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Tyranthal wrote:
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Ghandi256 wrote:
So I'm starting to get a few extra skill points laying around at 72 now. Got a stupidly lucky DH drop at around 35 so this build was fate for this character. Only 1.5k damage but I'm blowing everything over. The 90 point build is where I'm at and so my question is...what now? Or next. I've noticed a few easy access damage nodes like CrC and a 15% projectile damage which (I'm not sure how that calculates or includes ele damage or +ele damage) could be good. I don't know I feel survivability is just unneeded and I want more damage but I want it optimally from the tree. Perhaps you could suggest a 100 point build because you've done a stellar job so far.

Most fun I've had since D2.


Whoa, awesome responses, thanks! I don't have much time right now but I wanted to respond to this cause it ties into a major change that I have tested extensively.

Get Static Blows & the additional 10% chance to shock bringing the chance to shock 20%. Im gonna post about this much more in depth later, but I believe there is a tweaked mechanic when shooting 2 LA & when they pierce. I think when one shocks, the other hits and hits again with the amplified shock damage. Im lvl 57 and am WRECKING The Cave, level 61. Static Blows has made all the difference. It works with any applied light dmg. So.,...ice shot totem bot is chaining everydamned thing, shocking them and then i whallop it all with LA.

Must have DH to test this. Almost certain the pierce is giving more hits than is intended. Test this, Ill post vids and comment on this much much more.

Again, get static blows. Everybody! Ill work up a build tweak as soon as I can.


I think you are, there are sometimes when I hit a crit on a grouped up boss pack with Projectile weakness proc'd and everything just...explodes. As I said I only have ~ 1.5k but I have 1 shot boss packs before on crits. It doesn't happen all the time but I wonder if the way shock applies has something to do with it. I actually ran pierce for a long time because of how strong it can be with LA. A well leveled projectile weakness sort of nullifies that however.

There is one tip out there I can give to anyone. I really don't enjoy burning arrow for single target damage especially with DH because of the targeting of it. Get the boss against a wall and the LA will proc hit the boss from terrain splash. With Projectile Weakness it's very easy to pin a rare against a wall and get potentially 3 hits with every shot fired, doing much more damage than BA would.


Thus making the DH even more effective when you implicate terrain spalsh.
Does increased elemental weapon % damage mods on gear not affect tooltip dps? Or does it just stack really poorly? I'm seeing tooltip dps decrease when I swap out a quiver/ring with mediocre flat elem damage (1-20ish), and bring in a 25-30% elem weapon damage quiver/ring.

This is at 53 with all the core components except Wakes. Tooltip dps goes down both for Ice (Chain/WED/Cull) and BA (FP/WED).
Last edited by Elerion_#3639 on Feb 5, 2013, 7:43:38 PM
I noticed the % scaling really awful too, not sure what the deal is.
I'm getting bored and depressed being unable to afford any of the items required for this build, and I'm not even out of Normal yet (level 35).
Hi! I really like your build and Im planning on playing a similar character (somehow I dont like Rangers - but I wanted to do a bow char)

My Question is: Is Ice Shot/LA/BA/your main skill your attack vs groups and single targets?
I couldn't find any information that you have a Single target skill like EH, and only use the main skill as AoE dmg

Thanks!
At lvl 45
With D-Harp
Using +7% Ice Shot > Chain > +6% Faster Arrows > + 7% Added Cold
I'm at around 270 DPS.

When I put on the D-Harp my DPS dropped. Does DPS not calculate the second arrow?

I am about the pick up the nodes give +elemental %. When does the DPS pick up.
Right now im lvl 45 with decent lvl 45 gear, with a D-Harp with some pretty crappy DPS. Only 750 HP, and most energy shield armor doesnt roll green so its a pain in the ass.

Just curious whati m missing here, my gems and bow is good, my quiver is pretty good. Yet, my DPS sucks and my survivability is worse.
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With my


(Yes the gloves suck, just showing my gem setup)
My Burning Arrow is now at 4k tooltip DPS
And my Lightning Arrow + LMP is at 1.2k tooltip DPS
Last edited by SabreWolf#1831 on Feb 6, 2013, 1:34:49 AM

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