The Ultimate Melee DPS/TANK [FACEBREAKER ONSLAUGHT GUIDE]

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BlackySLO wrote:

Nast i was wathing bakers steam last night... and they were talking to some guy that is doing same or similar build as this... do you maybe know what is he doing... ?
he was able to facetank crem. boss... with 6man party...

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/384141

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgxU7NNzLdc

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Nastakanoth wrote:

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hellfurian wrote:

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And you will also kill yourself on reflect maps... :-) You will also find yourself in situations where IC can't be maintained. And why even bother since the build costs 3-4 times more?

But yeah, anything is possible :p

immortal call, and kill yourself on reflect maps ... do you even read before you open your mouth?

hard to maintain ... with warlords mark instead of enduring cry, not really. Not at all. And the duration with support and 7 charges is super long, gives you enough time to get more charges to reuse IC. Maybe vs kole it will be hard to keep? lol, who cares, he will die quickly, though with abyssus will hurt if he hits couple times in a row. But block / blind >>> Only problem is you cant use enfeeble, then again you dont need it, and when you do, you dont need physical immunity (megaera, piety). I'd rather use enduring cry and vulnerability though, for max dps output ^^

why bother? For the raw dps gains and range (range = same as more dps, as in 'damage more enemies per second / kill packs faster' dps)

I spend quite some time reading through all the pages yesterday and I seem to remember something about Purity. I might be wrong, but I thought someone said you wanted to be max all resists before using Purity and I just don't understand why :s I realise purity raises max resists, but it also gives a ton more than that, so you'd be at max anyway?
I'm new to poe so that may be why, but if someone could clear that up, that'd be great! :)

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Loje wrote:

I spend quite some time reading through all the pages yesterday and I seem to remember something about Purity. I might be wrong, but I thought someone said you wanted to be max all resists before using Purity and I just don't understand why :s I realise purity raises max resists, but it also gives a ton more than that, so you'd be at max anyway?
I'm new to poe so that may be why, but if someone could clear that up, that'd be great! :)

Max resists is capped at 75 in the game (without purity or flasks or Elemental Equilibrium Passive, or a shield like Saffell's.)

Now Purity gives both resists and max resists, they are not the same thing.

With purity at level 20 you can raise the 75% to 79%. But without purity, you can have 2000 cold resist, and you are still at 75 cold resist. With level 20 purity, you will be at 79 cold resist. (+4% max resist all)

What this also means, conversely, is if you have 60 cold resist as total from gear and passives, whether you are using purity or not, you are still at 0 cold resist on your character sheet. (Because merciless has a -60 penalty)

But its always good to have purity, for the resists alone.

I'm sorry, but I do know all of that and it's not really what I wanted to know, maybe I put it wrong :x

Say I'm maxed all res at 75%, I get Purity and add +4% to cap, but since Purity gives like 20%+ all res, I'd be far over the cap of 79% if I was at 75% before using the aura. Is this correct? Because then I don't understand / might have misread, when someone said that you needed to be @ 75% all res BEFORE using Purity.

I guess it's a bit confusing, atleast to me, it still is :s

I dont know what's so confusing?
You dont NEED to be at 75 before using purity...

If you're on 60% (like me), i use purity to cap to 75+ the extra max all res to 77 or whatever. However i am not overcapped, which means if i do a map with -resistances, it means i will have like 50-60 res... If ur already at 75% before u use purity, you will be heavily overcapped, and thus still have 75% even in -resistance maps.

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TheAffinity wrote:

You dont NEED to be at 75 before using purity...

Just what I wanted to know.
As I said in my first post I wasn't sure if I had misread or just didn't understand something. And atm I don't have the time to look through all of the pages to see what's what.
So thank you.

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Loje wrote:

I'm sorry, but I do know all of that and it's not really what I wanted to know, maybe I put it wrong :x

Say I'm maxed all res at 75%, I get Purity and add +4% to cap, but since Purity gives like 20%+ all res, I'd be far over the cap of 79% if I was at 75% before using the aura. Is this correct? Because then I don't understand / might have misread, when someone said that you needed to be @ 75% all res BEFORE using Purity.

I guess it's a bit confusing, atleast to me, it still is :s

See you did not understand me, in fact. Theres res and theres max res, both different.

You cant be far over the cap of 79 if you are capped at 79, but that extra res can be used against elemental weakness and other ele curses, like with diablo 2 and stacking against conviction.

What that person said about being 75 before using purity is on your char sheet, if you are at something like 10 res all its pointless to get purity since then you will be at 37 res all, and neither at 75 nor 79 res all. But no one is retarded to stick to low res on merciless difficulty.

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TheAffinity wrote:

I dont know what's so confusing?
You dont NEED to be at 75 before using purity...

If you're on 60% (like me), i use purity to cap to 75+ the extra max all res to 77 or whatever. However i am not overcapped, which means if i do a map with -resistances, it means i will have like 50-60 res... If ur already at 75% before u use purity, you will be heavily overcapped, and thus still have 75% even in -resistance maps.

You are wrong about this, or you must be talking about elemental weakness maps, not -max resist maps. If you have purity and EE for a total of 81 res all max and have a lot of stacked resistances, if you do a -25 max res map, you will still be at 81-25 = 56 res all. Then you can raise this again with saffells shield, topaz / sapphire / ruby flasks, or divination distillate unique flask.

Keywords here are resists and max resists. The word max is self explanatory, its a cap thing. Resists themselves help against stacking for curses and reaching the cap, but are not what dictates the cap itself, the cap is dictated by any max res affix on items or passives or maps. And is by default 75%

Ofc I'm talking about -resistance maps, that's what I said right?

Purity can either help you capping your resists, or help you OVERcapping them so you can safely still do -resistance maps...

That's why I said to that guy that you don't "NEED" to be capped to run purity... purity has multiple reasons to be used


edit: unless maps have a mod -MAX resists, in that case: I didn't know that excisted and then I am indeed wrong

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TheAffinity wrote:

Ofc I'm talking about -resistance maps, that's what I said right?

Purity can either help you capping your resists, or help you OVERcapping them so you can safely still do -resistance maps...

That's why I said to that guy that you don't "NEED" to be capped to run purity... purity has multiple reasons to be used


edit: unless maps have a mod -MAX resists, in that case: I didn't know that excisted and then I am indeed wrong

yep maps have a mod -MAX resists