[1.2.0] Dual Claws Are Cool

@JustReckless
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Do you think this would fail in higher level maps? I'm more than open to some of your suggestions.

Not sure about grabbing Heart of Oak, I'm mainly just a bit weary about not running Unwavering, since I always do and it's my safety blanket :p

Also, Charisma is only because I'm considering toying with the idea of running 3 auras with Alpha's Howl. Thinking about Grace + Hatred + Determination(?) Interested in whether you think this is a good or bad idea? As someone who surely has experimented quite a bit with a build like this, do you think something like the one I posted could work? I'm mid 40s right now, and just want to know if you think I should switch anything up too urgently before I get in too deep.

BoR and things of that nature are not out of the question, so a mixed defenses build without IR more similar to the one you posted is possible, if you don't think what I posted could work to survive. Just wanted to pick your mind a bit.

Yeah that'd work. How well it'd work is up for debate, since I don't run that tree, but it'll work.

@opel65
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How can I improve my DPS further, I mean with hatered and bloodrage stacked I have around 12k. Is that around CAP for this build?

Is that before or after the odd displayed DPS bug? Let's see, just in order of what to check for - high dps claw (preferably high aps too, scales way better with the amount of ias on this build), correct skill links, added damage from gear?

I can only speak from my own experience, which is running a Rain and a 1.85aps claw (320dps total) as a cyclonist. Damage contribution to higher maps was generally on par with LL RF players, and survivability like no other. At a guess, you probably want to take another look at your skill links, what are they again?
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Hi Kiri

I am now at level 52 on this build. However, I am having major survival issues. I keep dying very fast and very frequently. Any ideas on how to fix it? What am I doing wrong? (other than no multistrike). I use Dual Strike for main attack. Flicker if mob is a bit far, and a lot of fire traps.

My Gear and Gems:



My SkillTree
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYAA4cEfgSxBbUMjQzyDUkOSA-rFfAY2xrbHhoj9iaVKCowVDY9NkI6WDqzPWU-z0BVTGBRR1VLVvpaSFuvYeJte29XcHKHGYhrjDaNfY2_kAqSgJVmmVely6c0qBqqf6q4rs-xs7TFtUi95tN-3Q3jhOd06xTrju1B7g7v8Plj_MX_kw==

Any Help would really be appreciated. Chaos Mobs of course kill me since my res is -20. But other things really shouldnt, but I die quite easily if mob size > 3 or 4

Regards

Just to explain to people there are MUCH better builds out there for shadow DW than claw... Dagger CI for example is much stronger in dps, and can leach more life with 10% life leach than this claw build .. simply because you have 41k aoe dps with dual strike and Blood rage. Survivability is the same with glass cannon builds. Mby a bit higher with dagger simply because you can one shot mobs 3 shot bosses.

To gear your self either for Dual claw build or CI Dagger build is fucking pain in the ass and YOU WILL DIE ALLOT in process specially if your new to game or bad at it. To min-max your build and make it "Death proof" will cost you TONS OF EX.

I cant stress this enough DO NOT PLAY DUAL WIELD CLAW BUILDS if your new to game, cause you will most likely quit when shit hits the fan :D

Anyhow this build is probably one of the few ways you can make dual claw viable..so gj on that.

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I keep dying very fast and very frequently. Any ideas on how to fix it? What am I doing wrong?

All the %HP on the tree doesn't help if you don't have enough of it on your gear. At a guess, I'd say you're also missing resists. Try that. Maybe get some good claws from the indexer, because more leech = more survivability.
How to make a build: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/510084
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Last edited by Kirielis#6293 on Dec 8, 2013, 6:20:23 PM
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LevinBolt wrote:
Hi Kiri

I am now at level 52 on this build. However, I am having major survival issues. I keep dying very fast and very frequently. Any ideas on how to fix it? What am I doing wrong? (other than no multistrike). I use Dual Strike for main attack. Flicker if mob is a bit far, and a lot of fire traps.

My Gear and Gems:



My SkillTree
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYAA4cEfgSxBbUMjQzyDUkOSA-rFfAY2xrbHhoj9iaVKCowVDY9NkI6WDqzPWU-z0BVTGBRR1VLVvpaSFuvYeJte29XcHKHGYhrjDaNfY2_kAqSgJVmmVely6c0qBqqf6q4rs-xs7TFtUi95tN-3Q3jhOd06xTrju1B7g7v8Plj_MX_kw==

Any Help would really be appreciated. Chaos Mobs of course kill me since my res is -20. But other things really shouldnt, but I die quite easily if mob size > 3 or 4

Regards

You mask, amulet, chain, chestplate, secondary ring, boots and gloves are mediocre or flat out terrible in some cases. Your boots offer you nothing, your chain only gives some resistance but the % isn't even close to maxed, is only one resistance and provides no HP. Your amulet only gives some partial resistance and then a small percentage of evasion and a bit of magic find, it's suited for farming. Mask only has some lightning resist, no life or any notable high res rolls.

You want gear with life and resists, I can tell from the bonuses that some of your gear is extremely low leveled.

This is my current gear at lvl 47 which I have not replaced in about 10 lvls to give you an idea


Thanks guys for the quick reply.

I've been farming Docks in Cruel for last couple of levels, but havent got any gear anywhere close to what Qwark posted. Should I just keep at it or go elsewhere?
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LevinBolt wrote:
Thanks guys for the quick reply.

I've been farming Docks in Cruel for last couple of levels, but havent got any gear anywhere close to what Qwark posted. Should I just keep at it or go elsewhere?
What I usually do is farm and get yellows, if they're usable, use them as upgrades, your upgrades don't have to be huge, slow and steady wins the race even if it's by small percentages. If the yellows are useless then vendor for alterations, sell stacks for chaos and use that chaos to shop for good gear. You'd be surprised what you can buy with 1 chaos, let alone more.
This is a build I would love to try. Got a few questions before I do...

1. Why does Bloodseeker over VP eliminate the need for chaos resists on gear? Does the extra 6% leech on Bloodseeker completely negate the chaos damage from Blood rage or something? Or is giving up health flasks make running VP and Blood rage together dangerous? Have not run Blood rage before, so confused on the interactions.

2. How is the mana regen with this build while running two auras? Do you have to blood magic gem your main attack to keep your mana up, or is BM gem a waste of a socket in this build?
IGN: Daemak
poe.xyz.is should solve your gear issues.

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1. Why does Bloodseeker over VP eliminate the need for chaos resists on gear? Does the extra 6% leech on Bloodseeker completely negate the chaos damage from Blood rage or something? Or is giving up health flasks make running VP and Blood rage together dangerous? Have not run Blood rage before, so confused on the interactions.

Nothing so arcane as that. Blood rage is %HP per second chaos degen, which is countered by getting CR and/or by running some amount of %HP regen, such as those two nodes down in Duelist. VP negates all regen, so you'd better have good CR; without VP, you can get sufficient %regen to almost completely negate BR without a lot of CR.

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2. How is the mana regen with this build while running two auras? Do you have to blood magic gem your main attack to keep your mana up, or is BM gem a waste of a socket in this build?

2% mana leech, the limitation was on the 12.5% mana leech rate cap rather than on the amount leeched. No trouble running a 5L cyclone in endgame (3 links of Rain, plus added fire, and the last two were IIQ IIR), 6L was mostly okay, 7L I couldn't sustain so I went for BM gem. Also switched in BM for half regen maps. You'll have to try for yourself what feels comfortable, and just from experience, at level 40~ it's a lot more comfortable with 4% leech than 2%.
How to make a build: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/510084
Current guides: N/A
Last edited by Kirielis#6293 on Dec 11, 2013, 10:47:00 AM
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VP negates all regen...


Thanks for the help. I had missed the regen part in the node description, makes much more sense now :D I would rather keep some regen.

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You'll have to try for yourself what feels comfortable...


I was worried that running a BM gem + Blood rage would be too much of a strain on the health pool, but it sounds like it's completely viable to run both if needed? Also, will running Clarity help early/mid game if having mana issues?
IGN: Daemak
Last edited by 2ndHouse#0562 on Dec 11, 2013, 1:55:01 PM

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