Petrov's Elemental Bow Ranger Build(s) (0.10)

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KouGrizzle wrote:

Curious what the +Physical dmg bandit reward gives for rangers? Is that only good if you use bear traps? Or does it help out Frenzy?

I'm not really sure how the different damage types affect your attacks. Does Frenzy gain damage from +Elemental just as much as +Physical?

Is it always best to take +40 health, then both skill points from Cruel/Merciless for Bandit rewards?


I know that Nugi recommends taking the Frenzy charge from Merciless. I'm curious how good this is compared to another skill pt.

12% applies to your raw bow dmg and other +phy mods on other gear. Whereas 1 skill point can give you 8~10% weapon elemental dmg, which can scale higher and more if you stack enough elemental dmg on your gear.

Alternatively, the sk pt can be used to get hp nodes or other nodes you desire. Frenzy charges are 'recommended' but not must, as this build gives flexibility on the types of main attacks used versus nugi's gem progression. Take the charge if you permanently use frenzy, otherwise if you switch to ele hit (hopefully at some pt late game) it would be sub-optimal and hence this build gives flexibility by suggesting taking skill points.

From nugi's items, it seems he has been leveling his ele hit gem, hence it would be safe to assume his frenzy charge might be obsolete once he replaces the linked frenzy to linked ele hit.

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DokuCount wrote:

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xiaozozo wrote:

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DokuCount wrote:

5.2k armor

3k life

1.4k dps with LA and about 2k dps with EleHit

lvl 63

1.4 with chain? that's about right for me when im 63 without chain, however when i attached chain it went down to 800 as posted. Your hp is massive :)

oh im sorry...i overlooked that u wrote "with" chain :)

so no, without chain...was abit to expensive for me..needed all my currency for the bow =)

it must be a really good bow, as you have 3k hp and high dps. My stats were like 2.2k hp and 1.4k dps at 63 :)[/quote]



this one :) i bought her (shes female with the name "Lucy")^^ 2 days ago...was very lucky...just looked at the trade forum 5 min before this auction were finished :D

and now my question: was 3 exalted a fair price? at that point i only looked at the 5 links and got no idea how ele dmg works on bows..but now i know...so thanks all for this great thread and especially his royal guideiness Mr.Petrov for his awsome builds ;)

p.s im sorry for my bad english :)

Yea, well at lvl 46 I'm using Frenzy a lot. How does Elemental Hit compare for single target dps? Haven't found one yet.

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xiaozozo wrote:

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KouGrizzle wrote:

Curious what the +Physical dmg bandit reward gives for rangers? Is that only good if you use bear traps? Or does it help out Frenzy?

I'm not really sure how the different damage types affect your attacks. Does Frenzy gain damage from +Elemental just as much as +Physical?

Is it always best to take +40 health, then both skill points from Cruel/Merciless for Bandit rewards?


I know that Nugi recommends taking the Frenzy charge from Merciless. I'm curious how good this is compared to another skill pt.

12% applies to your raw bow dmg and other +phy mods on other gear. Whereas 1 skill point can give you 8~10% weapon elemental dmg, which can scale higher and more if you stack enough elemental dmg on your gear.

Alternatively, the sk pt can be used to get hp nodes or other nodes you desire. Frenzy charges are 'recommended' but not must, as this build gives flexibility on the types of main attacks used versus nugi's gem progression. Take the charge if you permanently use frenzy, otherwise if you switch to ele hit (hopefully at some pt late game) it would be sub-optimal and hence this build gives flexibility by suggesting taking skill points.

From nugi's items, it seems he has been leveling his ele hit gem, hence it would be safe to assume his frenzy charge might be obsolete once he replaces the linked frenzy to linked ele hit.

Helpful response, thanks for posting. Goin for skill creds for the flexibility.

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xiaozozo wrote:

not very efficient, as you should take the life% nodes near iron grip to maximise hp. Instead you went templar for hp and weapon elemental damage. You also missed static blows, not sure if this was intentional or if your build does not run LA. Others look much similar to nugi's build, he took some all resists node before.

I'm following the "iron grip and resolute technique elemental" build, not the standard static blows build. I don't think shocking mobs will be worth it. I mean, you'll have a 20% chance to shock which means you'll need to hit 5 times on average just for one shock, so the damage would be:

Hit - Dmg - Average Dmg
01 - 100% - 100%
02 - 100% - 100%
03 - 100% - 100%
04 - 100% - 100%
05 - 100% - 100%
06 - 140% - 107%
07 - 140% - 111%
08 - 140% - 115%
09 - 140% - 118%
10 - 140% - 120%
11 - 180% - 125%
12 - 180% - 130%
13 - 180% - 134%
14 - 180% - 137%
15 - 180% - 140%
16 - 220% - 145%
17 - 220% - 149%
18 - 220% - 153%
19 - 220% - 157%
20 - 220% - 160%
30 - 220% - 180%
40 - 220% - 190%
50 - 220% - 196%


That is how much damage you'll do on average during the first 50 hits. I'm in merciless act 2 with pretty crappy gear, with fire and lightning auras I have 1k dps on my lighting arrow. Most mobs die in less than 10 hits unless they're lightning resistant, so the average damage would rarely go over 120%.

On the other hand, with the iron grip build you won't deal more damage with each hit, but you'll have +30% elemental damage and iron grip. It's harder to do the math for that, but I'm pretty sure it would benefit more than 20% extra damage, so I went with this one.

However, now that I think about it, it was probably a mistake. Defensive wise the builds are close, but the static blows one wins around 15% more life, +30 flat hp, +2.9% life per second, -30% dmg from criticals, while only losing 18% fire and cold resist. Damage wise, while soloing packs of weaker mobs might prove more advantageous to the iron grip one, in a party the static blows will be vastly superior as the extra damage will apply to everyone.

I will now proceed to refund as many points as possible and go trough the static blows route. I guess I'll need 6 or so extra refunds.. Not too bad.


In light of this, I don't think the iron grip build shouldn't be recommended. It simply loses to the "tankier + shock stacking" build.

Hey guys, here is my current build.
Need help bad...

SKILL BUILD:


My lightning arrow deals only 600dps with auras...

Equipment:


Now: i have about 3k hp at level 64. Now should I start filling out the remaining HP nodes, or...
Do I go get perfect aim first then fill out the HP nodes? My attack is very weak :(.

PS: 1 quick question if my base life is say 2200 and 8% life node on top isn't it greater than the +20strength +30 max health node? Heart of Gladiators
Currently have + 1 skill point i haven't allocated.

Its probably been asked and answered, but my best linked item is 5L atm, so what would be better chain or lmp/gmp for LA+life leech+faster atts+ wep ele dmg?

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DokuCount wrote:

this one :) i bought her (shes female with the name "Lucy")^^ 2 days ago...was very lucky...just looked at the trade forum 5 min before this auction were finished :D

and now my question: was 3 exalted a fair price? at that point i only looked at the 5 links and got no idea how ele dmg works on bows..but now i know...so thanks all for this great thread and especially his royal guideiness Mr.Petrov for his awsome builds ;)

p.s im sorry for my bad english :)

great ele dmg on bow! its worth the price for 3 exalted, but sometime in the future you will be upgrading this (even though it will be difficult to find a better replacement) due to the attack speed. The preferred bow will be a thicket or imperial bow with a higher base atk speed. However by no means sell your bow and buy another one, because ^ it will be difficult to find a replacement 5L. So good job.

To answer the question on static blows, the reason why its OP is because if there are pack monsters, the static and shock effects are stacked amongst monsters. One simple example would be that, if there 3 monsters together, each monster would shock stack '3' times. Once being the main hit, and twice being the area shock. This escalates and multiplies damange insanely, together with your dps. Now combine that with Chain, you can achieve insane shocking just by shooting randomly. :)

For the last question on links, do this instead: Remove faster attacks.
LA + Weap Ele Dmg + Life Leech/Life Gain + LMP + Chain
Try and get atk speed from other equipments, or charge up your frenzy atks first and get free 15%/20% atk speed.

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Itoko wrote:

Hey guys, here is my current build.
Need help bad...

SKILL BUILD:

Spoiler

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgIABLMFLQguDjwOrRQgFE0UcRjbGS4Zjho4HRQhYCftKLUppTIJMok1kjbpOlJAoEGqQ5xKfU7IUEdVxlYEVvpX4lnzW69gS2CIYVJjp2aeZ6BnvXKpdO108Xfleu982YZgh3aPRpBVm42boZ65n8uiAKcwp4SsqrndwBrPZdDQ037Uj90N3Ubfv-Nq7Djtg-4O7m_vDu9O8B_yL_cy-Ov60vxO_MU=

My lightning arrow deals only 600dps with auras...

Equipment:

Spoiler

Now: i have about 3k hp at level 64. Now should I start filling out the remaining HP nodes, or...
Do I go get perfect aim first then fill out the HP nodes? My attack is very weak :(.

PS: 1 quick question if my base life is say 2200 and 8% life node on top isn't it greater than the +20strength +30 max health node? Heart of Gladiators
Currently have + 1 skill point i haven't allocated.

nice gloves :) i havent looked at your passives but i feel your dmg for LA is abit low. You need to try and get more elemental dmg cold/fire/light on your jewellery to maximise the %ele on your quiver.

edit: Yes definitely go for Perfect Aim ASAP.. it will increase your dps by alot at the 3 nodes leading to it also add damage significantly. Imo 3k hp will be able to keep you alive until lv75 and doing 66 maps... Unless you wish to finish the health nodes, i may suggest that you go for celestial walker and the other weap elemental% nodes.

tyvm for your input.
Here is what I will be doing:
1) get perfect aim asap
2) unspec heart of gladiator and iron skin asap
3) go through the amplify nodes to get celestial walker
4) finish it off with life nodes!

If you have a few seconds lmk what you think :)
(gloves I ended up finding it off one of my first uniques heh)