[1.0.6] CI Crit Dagger Shadow (30k DPS Flicker Ninja) [OB video up!]

Which boots should I use? I have Wake of Destruction boots and Sin Trek boots?

CI build is inferior to HP build unless better gear, but with the best gears I think CI is a bit better.

CI build is inferior to HP build unless better gear, but with the best gears I think CI is a bit better.

I'd use Sin Trek over Wake any day. Chance to flee can be seriously annoying.

Also, CI does allow you to keep Blood Rage up at all times, which is kind of neat. I feel like as far as pure survivability goes, HP is much better than CI. Skilldrasil has significantly more HP nodes than ES nodes (like over 400% life to es at probably less than 300%) and you get access to pots and health regen nodes/gear as well. You get more base life than ES; 0 base ES, several hundred base life. (take off all of your gear and subtract life gained from Str and you'll still have a few hundred) Also, with a life build, you can focus on mitigation from your armor instead of requiring most of your armor's base stats to go to your life pool.

So, yeah, as far as pure survivability goes, HP >> CI. That being said, I just really like CI a lot and that's why I'm building my CI Crit Dagger Shadow. The thrill for me is not making the ultimately perfect min-max build, it's about taking a sub-optimal build that is just cool and making it work in HC.

EDIT: Also melting faces with Flicker Strike. That's pretty thrilling too.

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HGlobus wrote:

Now, with Chaos resist so ubiquitous (relatively), is there a good reason to go with Chaos Innoculation (disregarding my sig)? I mean, chaos is NOT the 33% of all incoming damage (especially from bosses), even with good armor and elemental resistances, and I doubt you can get any more than 3x the energy shield (or a comparable DPS increase) than what life+ES you get with a CI-less build.

Please spare me the "CI is stil good aftor it's nerf durr hurr" answers; show me some of the almighty numbers instead, if you (or anybody) care(s).

Also, I'm aware that you made a CI-less build of this. I'm not saying "this build has CI that's gay gtfo", I'd like to know the reasoning behind the choice of including that one keystone.

Well, I dont have to manage hp. I have 4.9k ES atm. I run 3 surgeons granites each with different defense (1 ar, 1 ev, 1 ele rs). Essentially, even i na group of 6 survive is never an issue, and i rarely ever pop my flasks. if ever. Also, my main attack is now at 7k dps.

So, in total, im at or near 75% all res, have a 4.9k buffer that is leeched back with every attack and i never really ever pop flasks. to top it off I can 5 shot bosses solo (with my attack speed thats like 2-3 seconds) and 1-3 shot all rares solo. in groups i can face tank a mob of 6 voidbears while doing more dmg than the rest of my ranged glass cannon compadres.

Oh, and my es recharges in like 2 secs if i do decide to whirling blades away if im in trouble.


and i still dont even have the best gear.

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ThirstyGhost wrote:

I'd use Sin Trek over Wake any day. Chance to flee can be seriously annoying.

Also, CI does allow you to keep Blood Rage up at all times, which is kind of neat. I feel like as far as pure survivability goes, HP is much better than CI. Skilldrasil has significantly more HP nodes than ES nodes (like over 400% life to es at probably less than 300%) and you get access to pots and health regen nodes/gear as well. You get more base life than ES; 0 base ES, several hundred base life. (take off all of your gear and subtract life gained from Str and you'll still have a few hundred) Also, with a life build, you can focus on mitigation from your armor instead of requiring most of your armor's base stats to go to your life pool.

So, yeah, as far as pure survivability goes, HP >> CI. That being said, I just really like CI a lot and that's why I'm building my CI Crit Dagger Shadow. The thrill for me is not making the ultimately perfect min-max build, it's about taking a sub-optimal build that is just cool and making it work in HC.

EDIT: Also melting faces with Flicker Strike. That's pretty thrilling too.

I disagree. with the right gear CI outshines HP every day. Hp is all micro managing of flask and such. I literally cant remember the last time popped a flask due to low es. And im in maps.

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HGlobus wrote:

Now, with Chaos resist so ubiquitous (relatively), is there a good reason to go with Chaos Innoculation (disregarding my sig)? I mean, chaos is NOT the 33% of all incoming damage (especially from bosses), even with good armor and elemental resistances, and I doubt you can get any more than 3x the energy shield (or a comparable DPS increase) than what life+ES you get with a CI-less build.

Please spare me the "CI is stil good aftor it's nerf durr hurr" answers; show me some of the almighty numbers instead, if you (or anybody) care(s).

Also, I'm aware that you made a CI-less build of this. I'm not saying "this build has CI that's gay gtfo", I'd like to know the reasoning behind the choice of including that one keystone.

Well from my view you also cut bloodrage dot, which makes you lose ES regen. Even with lots of "ES leech" you will need to kite and let your shield regen 100%.

One of my biggest problems right now, im 68 but lack of gear don't let me use CI yet, are chaos mobs. I have 2k+ ES and 700 HP, do you know how fast chaos delete those 700?

This build lacks HP so chaos is your worst enemy, and since chaos resist are someway hard to max CI makes the job. If you can't beat them join them. :D

The best part of ES builds is the huge pool of life you have, ES regen is kinda broken vs life regen once you have lots of shield.

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HGlobus wrote:

Now, with Chaos resist so ubiquitous (relatively), is there a good reason to go with Chaos Innoculation (disregarding my sig)? I mean, chaos is NOT the 33% of all incoming damage (especially from bosses), even with good armor and elemental resistances, and I doubt you can get any more than 3x the energy shield (or a comparable DPS increase) than what life+ES you get with a CI-less build.

Please spare me the "CI is stil good aftor it's nerf durr hurr" answers; show me some of the almighty numbers instead, if you (or anybody) care(s).

Also, I'm aware that you made a CI-less build of this. I'm not saying "this build has CI that's gay gtfo", I'd like to know the reasoning behind the choice of including that one keystone.

I always find these posts in every single thread in the class forums. Here's a short answer to all of your concerns:
Decide the pros and cons of the build, if the cons outweigh the pros then don't play it. Simple as that. You're not really losing anything from playing this build and trying it out. Even if you decide it's not for you, you racked up a good amount of orbs/assets to pedal off for your next toon.

Long story short, go fuck yourself.

Back on track, I made a Witch that follows this build mainly because I wanted a female assassin-esque toon. Early game, the build was lacking a bit of damage. However, I'm at the Shadow area and damage is really starting to rack up. I wanted to try out power charges just for fun, so I picked up Voll's.

Holy hell almighty is the DPS increase intense. So, my question is: Is the ES loss on the chestpiece worth the DPS increase from the power charges? Just looking at the skill tree, at least for me, there's 2 Power Charge nodes within reach for less than a handful of points. Right now, at 46, each charge is adding ~4% crit chance and I sit at a nice 51% on Lightning Strike with ~1.2k DPS.

Fellow shadows!

Help me find HUGE fire resist + mana ring (and some lightning res + elem dmg%).
And fire resist + STR belt (also elem dmg%)
I have great gear, but lacking fire resist. Need to change ring and belt ASAP. Trade channel/forum is useless...

Some1 in-game linked this ring, but refused to sell for 2gcp, and I didn't wanted to offer more, since it can't roll mana. Shall I offer Exalted+ and find mana somewhere else?

anyone need?