[1.0.6] CI Crit Dagger Shadow (30k DPS Flicker Ninja) [OB video up!]

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Invalesco wrote:

If you want a SC scion version, here's one I came up with which is quite alright. I haven't compared the details yet, but this should have more crit multiplier, albeit less ES.

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http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAAOyi-vAOWguRuPZARYEOKr4MJSshGcT8ntAwqTTQKkycVIFfJHNws6QFvf8bdDcHFEZb8xVuvLL-IQp2jDkhW6nC7VvpOKhjbhq6QG_yr44SnNAV92RPuDimldPEV13BWiGtjQ8BRL28a2yFg14aaE7b38uHz6tfL-WNMYECgVmPb1JmaES_C7HBSt9O95iT9BLHvTutjtMVHBj3iPs_nVJVmouootZfQKwpfalFH1QAS4So4VvXBADMMYSG5Ptsa_isaVdtuEHsZ1WSjfeP1S__eNui-OgHnn8s8joRI6ro3ZiymN4Om67cXOJY=

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XianPTT wrote:

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Invalesco wrote:

What's your ES at the moment?

I have a strong suspicion that your feeling weak is due to your getting stunned very often. I think you will feel much stronger once you get unwavering stance.

Edit: also, I would remove PCOC from double strike and use melee damage on full life instead. I would also remove multistrike from PCOC and use melee damage on full life as well.

I have 4264 ES without any aura, I feel I leech my es back really slow ( even with blood rage). One more question, what do you think about using multistrike on double strike instead of faster attack? Thank you so much for your answers. I really appreciate it!

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AlexxShadow wrote:

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http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYABX0OSBB7ES8RUBGWFdcWvxnXHNwd2R4aJ6koKisKLKYsvy9vMFQ0CjdmN4M74UNURwZPv1ZjVupW9V9qbRlwUnBWcLt1in5Zf8aGrofbiEKIa4t6jAuQG5Mnl9CZV5mamhOdo6Kjpn-m66crpzSxs7QMtMW1SLb3uT65fLvWvjrAVMEAwcXB88Lsw23UBdeG2RPbGtvU4vfjhOaB6

4.3k ES atm I feel like I've hit a wall and don't seem to be very effective In Act 3 Merci

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DeathTouch wrote:

Thanks for the info. What do you think about this alternative build for the Scion?

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http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgABAecDlghnDkgRLxGWEuEV1xpVHNwotSmlKjgsvy0fMgkyfjboOlI7KEZxRwZKyEyzTipQMFZjWK9aGlpSX2pgQ2EhY0Nko2xGbRluPW6qcFJybHgNf8aDCYauiGuTJ5mam12do5_LoqOi6qc0qJqpbrQMtfK2Qbb3wFHBxcHzwuzXhuOE62PvTvKX8uHz6vyrGdc2PaXLtMUrCsEA2xoQe_VLvjqX0Fb1uT7bbn3jVuoFfYhCkBtwVpoT29RDMRvIXhOE75uDU9-sr-wYw23p_rl8cNVY24TZbmm-p768h9umf-1BsbO1SCgqmVc=

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Invalesco wrote:

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DeathTouch wrote:

Thanks for the info. What do you think about this alternative build for the Scion?

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http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgABAecDlghnDkgRLxGWEuEV1xpVHNwotSmlKjgsvy0fMgkyfjboOlI7KEZxRwZKyEyzTipQMFZjWK9aGlpSX2pgQ2EhY0Nko2xGbRluPW6qcFJybHgNf8aDCYauiGuTJ5mam12do5_LoqOi6qc0qJqpbrQMtfK2Qbb3wFHBxcHzwuzXhuOE62PvTvKX8uHz6vyrGdc2PaXLtMUrCsEA2xoQe_VLvjqX0Fb1uT7bbn3jVuoFfYhCkBtwVpoT29RDMRvIXhOE75uDU9-sr-wYw23p_rl8cNVY24TZbmm-p768h9umf-1BsbO1SCgqmVc=

That looks fine to me. However, it does look very much oriented around attack speed which won't be that effective for flicker. You might wanna consider investing more in %physical damage nodes.

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DeathTouch wrote:

I like to use Lightning Strike as my primary attack and use Flicker Strike for rares and bosses. Then I use frenzy with Multistrike to quickly get back frenzy charges for Flicker. Anyways, I've never been much for plan building but I put your build and the one I thought up into a Skill Planner and this is what they look like side-by-side (with my current gear). What do you think?

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Invalesco wrote:

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DeathTouch wrote:

I like to use Lightning Strike as my primary attack and use Flicker Strike for rares and bosses. Then I use frenzy with Multistrike to quickly get back frenzy charges for Flicker. Anyways, I've never been much for plan building but I put your build and the one I thought up into a Skill Planner and this is what they look like side-by-side (with my current gear). What do you think?

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Yours looks fine. Try not to neglect defence though while ur at it

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ZyonRelic wrote:

Hey,

I followed youre guide for quite a while now and I noticed that you respected out of the Arcane Focus / Deep Wisdom branch in the tree and instead focused on the ES-Wheel.

I kinda had the feeling that it would be better to keep the Arcane Focus branch and instead spec out of some ES nodes in the wheel.

Correct me if my math is wrong;

If you take all the ES-Nodes in the Arcane Focus branch, you need 9 points (including getting there from your normal path). You end up with having 48% increased ES (40 pure and 8 from the Int buff), 20 increased Cooldown Recovery, 40 Intelligent and 40 Mana (20 pure, 20 from Int buff).

The efficiency in terms of ES is slightly lower than in the wheel with 5.333 ES per point, yet you have 20 increased recovery speed and 40 more mana. If you drop the nodes with recovery speed and the additional 10% increased ES, you end up with 38% increased ES for 6 points, that being 6.333% increased ES per point, which is even more effective than in the wheel, not mentioning the additonal Mana you get from it.

So am I totally mistaken or is it correct that speccing into the Arcane Focus is more efficient than in the wheel?

Thanks and have fun!

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ZyonRelic wrote:

Thanks, certainly helps. :)

Right now I've grabbed all the nodes I could get for ES, as my gear is not that great - which means that I specced in the wheel as well as in the Arcane Focus branch. I plan to respec out of it as soon as I got enough points (including the respecced ones) to get to the next dmg branch.

Do you use Alpha's Howl or rather a high ES helmet and Dream Fragment if needed? I just feel that the ES sacrifice would be huge otherwise.