[1.0.6] CI Crit Dagger Shadow (30k DPS Flicker Ninja) [OB video up!]

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MortalKombat3 wrote:

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Sixnia wrote:

Ive used this build for quite a while but switched to reave aswell.

Lightning Strike is also a good all-arounder. If supported properly.

As for build, shouldnt build be the same?

As for mana cost, without decent reduce to mana reservation you wont be able to run two auras effectively while having low manapool. This is probably doable with Alpha's howl, however... As for nodes reducing mana reservation, well, they're additional points spent...

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hombre4554 wrote:

Hey guys, I've been running into a dilemma with this build. I really like the CI dagger with Lightning Strike because of the range and playstyle, but I've been finding that Reave's DPS knocks lightning strike out of the water. Is it even efficient to go Lightning Strike when Reave does so much more damage?

(with Hatred running, and I only have 4links at the moment.)

Reave
Right now I'm getting 8.5k of DPS with these gems:

Lightning Strike
And I'm getting 6.8k of DPS with these:

I don't think the Multistrike works with the LS projectiles, but just for comparison's sake since this would theoretically boost the DPS higher (since it shows the melee damage on the tooltip) than Power Charge on Crit would. So, in actuality my LS DPS would be much lower than this even.

What do you guys think about going Reave instead of LS? Is there a way to make my LS damage comparable to the Reave's damage? I really like how LS is ranged, but Reave's efficiency is just too good to pass up atm. Also, I need to look for the colors on my 5L depending on which skill I choose, so some input would be appreciated. Thanks.

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Makavelit0t0 wrote:

the problem is that you are using multistrike that takes away 36% damage from the projectile of the lightning strike since the projectile doesnt count as a melee so only the LS melee hit will the the real dmg, so multistrike with lmp as a combination is really bad.

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Nanaya_Kiri wrote:

I'd rather use PCoC + crit damage instead of faster attack + multistrike with LS, it's easier to shock stack and freeze and it usually oneshots white mobs with a crit. At the very least I'd swap out multistrike for crit damage, if you wanna keep faster attack.

As the fifth link, WED will give you a significant boost in damage.

I'm using reave atm just because it's full physical damage, so it leeches more life and it lets me somewhat tank blue mobs instead of kiting (the best I could afford was a 250 dps dagger with 7.3% crit, so usually I can't kill blue mobs before they surround me). LS lets you keep your range, but if you let mobs get near, you'll probably have to relocate (unless you have really good gear).

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MortalKombat3 wrote:

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Makavelit0t0 wrote:

the problem is that you are using multistrike that takes away 36% damage from the projectile of the lightning strike since the projectile doesnt count as a melee so only the LS melee hit will the the real dmg, so multistrike with lmp as a combination is really bad.

Even taking that in account, Multistrike's DPS effectiveness is the same as Faster Attacks for projectiles. Faster attacks give more damage per hit shich helps to shock tougher targets though, but multistrike is more useful against packs... Anyway, this is more question of color.

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Makavelit0t0 wrote:

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MortalKombat3 wrote:

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Makavelit0t0 wrote:

the problem is that you are using multistrike that takes away 36% damage from the projectile of the lightning strike since the projectile doesnt count as a melee so only the LS melee hit will the the real dmg, so multistrike with lmp as a combination is really bad.

Even taking that in account, Multistrike's DPS effectiveness is the same as Faster Attacks for projectiles. Faster attacks give more damage per hit shich helps to shock tougher targets though, but multistrike is more useful against packs... Anyway, this is more question of color.

no there is no DPS effectiveness on that combo with gem because i have done 75+ map with this build back in onslaught(no big changes except for VP) and that will make you lack DPS on the projectile

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MortalKombat3 wrote:

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Nanaya_Kiri wrote:

I'd rather use PCoC + crit damage instead of faster attack + multistrike with LS, it's easier to shock stack and freeze and it usually oneshots white mobs with a crit. At the very least I'd swap out multistrike for crit damage, if you wanna keep faster attack.

As the fifth link, WED will give you a significant boost in damage.

I'm using reave atm just because it's full physical damage, so it leeches more life and it lets me somewhat tank blue mobs instead of kiting (the best I could afford was a 250 dps dagger with 7.3% crit, so usually I can't kill blue mobs before they surround me). LS lets you keep your range, but if you let mobs get near, you'll probably have to relocate (unless you have really good gear).

PCoC + crit damage are just must-have, you can even think about removing them (unless your crit chance is very high without PCoC). WED is a significant mana cost increase, but it fact not very good damage boost, since WED was nerfed. I would prefer Additional Accuracy there. Around same DPS increase, but better consistency. Or physical projectile damage...