[1.0.6] CI Crit Dagger Shadow (30k DPS Flicker Ninja) [OB video up!]

Hi, I follow your guide on how to start off with building the CI build. I start fine and get through the first two acts on normal just fine without any problems and then hit act 3 and start having a hard time. My gear isn't all that great and armor was only 450(35% reduced damage)and evasion was 350-400(25-30% evasion rate)

Levels 1-10 Tree


Levels 11-20 Tree (with skill points from quest)


Levels 21-30 Tree (with skill points from quests)


At this point I normally just finish killing Vaal and an on my way to Act3 with the above stated armor/eva.

Skill Gems (with Links)


With LS I was doing around 550-600 dps, Flicker 650 dps. I can survive pretty well at range from most with monsters with my resists being around 50+ each resistance, but every time I get to a melee boss/rare mob. My armor/eva doesn't hold up to well against these mobs.

I was wondering if I should farm some place for better gear before I begin to proceed into act 3, or just press forward and learn from my deaths if they may come?

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Hey guys, one of you veterans farming maps with this build can probably help me out here. Currently I'm level 63 and starting out Act 3 Merciless. My big question is how much ES & Lightning Strike damage is needed to start farming maps efficiently/safely.

Right now (level 63) I have 4.5K ES and my LS damage with 4 Frenzy charges is ~7.4k. Keep in mind, though, I'm not using my end-game chest. Just using a 500 ES 4L (so LS only has 3 supports atm: LMP, WED and FA). That chest will turn into a 700+ ES 5-6L at 68.

So, again, what ES level and LS damage should I am for before starting maps?

Thanks for any input!

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Zijesinop wrote:

Hi, I follow your guide on how to start off with building the CI build. I start fine and get through the first two acts on normal just fine without any problems and then hit act 3 and start having a hard time. My gear isn't all that great and armor was only 450(35% reduced damage)and evasion was 350-400(25-30% evasion rate)

For normal if you focus on getting hp (don't hesitate to take hp nodes on the tree) you should be ok.

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Vaux wrote:

Hey guys, one of you veterans farming maps with this build can probably help me out here. Currently I'm level 63 and starting out Act 3 Merciless. My big question is how much ES & Lightning Strike damage is needed to start farming maps efficiently/safely.

Right now (level 63) I have 4.5K ES and my LS damage with 4 Frenzy charges is ~7.4k. Keep in mind, though, I'm not using my end-game chest. Just using a 500 ES 4L (so LS only has 3 supports atm: LMP, WED and FA). That chest will turn into a 700+ ES 5-6L at 68.

So, again, what ES level and LS damage should I am for before starting maps?

Thanks for any input!

Damage wise you seem ok to me (i do maps with about 8k dps on LS). On maps survivability is the problem. I found maps tough with under 6k ES (but maybe I play like crap, also a possibility).
Also I would highly recommend having max @res and even Purity Aura for more max res.

Also flask wise I simultaneously use 2 granites (surgeons of course) one with increased armor and one with increased evasion. Even though the 4000 armor on flasks don't stack the different effects do, so it boosts aror and eva quite significantly (especially if you have the inner force cluster on tree)

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Zijesinop wrote:

With LS I was doing around 550-600 dps, Flicker 650 dps. I can survive pretty well at range from most with monsters with my resists being around 50+ each resistance, but every time I get to a melee boss/rare mob. My armor/eva doesn't hold up to well against these mobs.

I was wondering if I should farm some place for better gear before I begin to proceed into act 3, or just press forward and learn from my deaths if they may come?

What skill u r using against boss? Flicker/LS are obviously bad choices.
Viper strike does not require u to tank boss and I think its your choice to take atm.
Personally I didnt use viper much since I was lucky enough to loot a carnage heart(unique amulet with attributes, res and high life leech) that really helped a lot until I got a better one from trade. U may want to try it since the amulet should be really cheap now if u do not care that much about the roll.
At last, just as someone mentioned, do not hesitate taking life nodes, I took more than the guide says and I feel quite smooth until I enter merc. Dont worry you have plenty of regret points for them.

Guys, is it worthing taking vaal pact early? Am level 64 and it seems to make me not even lifeleech lmao. The reason i took it was for the str, but I think i'm starting to regret it...I should probably scour my LS and remove these points, grab more es and damamge...Or should I not worry and just keep on going through?

By the time I can map (66 + all quest passives) I will have a full damage cluster+the accuracy at the end(going for NS first for crit chance), all the otger crit nodes on the board that have been taken near the shadow tree, all the EV+ES nodes, adders touch, and the deepwisdom+ arcane focus and the 8% node after that...

and yes I have ghost reaver and Ci+Afternodes


Currently running a 5link with LS+FA+LMP+CritMulti+Crit chance (Not worth trying to get 2 red 1 blue 2green on a pure ES chest that i'm only using as a temp... lol)

Running 4.4k ES(new shield at 66 with double the es of my current shield, + 400ish evasion) planing on a new chest soon, got about 20exalt, trying to find a 6link with fire res and high es(fire res is my only res not maxxed, did a miscalc when buying my gear >.> lol)

and currently have 4.3k lstrike dps(do not have Nightstalker yet, working on the remaining skill quests as I rushed through) 6.8k double strike, 6.7k flicker strike...Am running hatred+wrath+disc(will be putting on grace soon for some more EV, almost have enough mana to keep it going)


EDIT: Ok so I took of vaal pact and the 10 str node before it(kept the other stuff so I dont have to scour my gem yet) and lifeleech overtime works much better than instant for me, probably because my damage is so low that it works better lol. Ohwell...Tis what I get for trying to edit a godly build for earlier preference :p

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Hey guys, one of you veterans farming maps with this build can probably help me out here. Currently I'm level 63 and starting out Act 3 Merciless. My big question is how much ES & Lightning Strike damage is needed to start farming maps efficiently/safely.

Right now (level 63) I have 4.5K ES and my LS damage with 4 Frenzy charges is ~7.4k. Keep in mind, though, I'm not using my end-game chest. Just using a 500 ES 4L (so LS only has 3 supports atm: LMP, WED and FA). That chest will turn into a 700+ ES 5-6L at 68.

So, again, what ES level and LS damage should I am for before starting maps?

Thanks for any input!

I feel comfortable soloing all maps from 66-71 (except Temple; haven't attempted that one yet,) and currently I'm only sitting at 3.7k ES, 14k Dual Strike, 10k Flicker Strike, and 5k LS (No frenzy charge, but with Wrath and Hatred.) I will admit I do feel like I need more ES, but having capped res/granites of iron skin make surviving a lot easier.

The only map I've had trouble with is the Underground Sea boss; fuck those shock stacks. The only way I can live is to wear

Oh and Lightning Thorns, but every melee as far as I know has a problem with those fucking Blackguard Mages. Speaking of which, does anyone know how the fuck you are supposed to fight them? Is there any way to Lightning Strike a pack of mobs that have Lightning Thorns on them without one-shotting yourself?

I feel like nothing I do helps. Wearing a shield doesn't help, Purity doesn't help, adding more leech doesn't help. Seriously no idea wtf to do against those guys.

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wozzlebottle wrote:

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Vaux wrote:

Hey guys, one of you veterans farming maps with this build can probably help me out here. Currently I'm level 63 and starting out Act 3 Merciless. My big question is how much ES & Lightning Strike damage is needed to start farming maps efficiently/safely.

Right now (level 63) I have 4.5K ES and my LS damage with 4 Frenzy charges is ~7.4k. Keep in mind, though, I'm not using my end-game chest. Just using a 500 ES 4L (so LS only has 3 supports atm: LMP, WED and FA). That chest will turn into a 700+ ES 5-6L at 68.

So, again, what ES level and LS damage should I am for before starting maps?

Thanks for any input!

Damage wise you seem ok to me (i do maps with about 8k dps on LS). On maps survivability is the problem. I found maps tough with under 6k ES (but maybe I play like crap, also a possibility).
Also I would highly recommend having max @res and even Purity Aura for more max res.

Also flask wise I simultaneously use 2 granites (surgeons of course) one with increased armor and one with increased evasion. Even though the 4000 armor on flasks don't stack the different effects do, so it boosts aror and eva quite significantly (especially if you have the inner force cluster on tree)

I got 8.2K on LS with 3 frenzy charges and 5.7K es, I feel just okay solo lvl70 maps(But my laptop sucks I always die from low fps, I havent play my shadow for some time..). I use 3 granite pots all of which are iron skin(+armour). Actually I found that +evasion were not as good as +armour since with+100% evasion and grace I only got less than 10k evasion(less than 8k if I didnt remember wrong, hopefully: P) and a bit increase in evasion rating but with +armour, its easy u have 10k+ armour and decent physical res. Now I have totally given up evasion and run haste instead of grace. With new unique boots and mana drinker node I have enough mana to spam LS in most occasions while running haste-wrath-hatred and discipline. Purity may be needed in higher level maps, whatever, I am trying to build a LA ranger just for farm...I found it so difficult to stack mf on my shadow: (

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Kirarik wrote:

Oh and Lightning Thorns, but every melee as far as I know has a problem with those fucking Blackguard Mages. Speaking of which, does anyone know how the fuck you are supposed to fight them? Is there any way to Lightning Strike a pack of mobs that have Lightning Thorns on them without one-shotting yourself?

I feel like nothing I do helps. Wearing a shield doesn't help, Purity doesn't help, adding more leech doesn't help. Seriously no idea wtf to do against those guys.

Well even though they are a tough mob and are about to get nerfed, my tactic verse them has been to identify them before spamming lightning strike.

After I see them, I will shoot one lightning strike to bait out the thorns, usually on another mob near them. When they cast the thorns on said mob, I flicker to the arc mage and crush them down as well as any other arc mage.

This limits their ability to hurt me by diverting their hex to another target and being able to squish them before they become much of a problem. Wait for the hex to wear off on said mob and resume lightning striking.