[1.0.6] CI Crit Dagger Shadow (30k DPS Flicker Ninja) [OB video up!]

I'll take a stab at it, first your tree.

I see you've gotten more or less every node while skipping an ES cluster and Dagger/Accuracy nodes on the damage cluster by CI. Why is this? Will you have such an astounding setup that you won't need ES or do you just value the damage so much so?

Also, the Accuracy bonus on those damage nodes is pretty considerable when you start stacking up flat amounts of accuracy, I'd reconsider not getting them because of their potent addition to your DPS. 16% Overall accuracy may not seem like a lot, but if you can stack up 1,000 accuracy from your gear (2x 300 rings, 200 amulet, 200 headgear for example) you'll get an additional 160 and in my experience accuracy raises dps numbers across the charts almost 2 to 1 point to point when you are at a higher level.

On to your gear, first I'd do away with the notion that Dream Fragments and Chayula are a must for your setup. They are better used in PvP for DF to prevent freeze lock. If you have a problem being chilled/frozen the more effective route to take is to use a flask with the Heat affix. Now I know you want to put to good use your ring, but I think the slot is so valuable for other stats that it hardly merits the use of DF. You could be stacking lightning damage, strength, life leech, accuracy, all resistance, +ES, and attack speed in that slot. The benefit of having dream fragment for the cold res, extra mana and cannot be frozen affixes are really nice but you'll still find yourself chilled while wearing it and that can be dangerous on high level maps too.

Secondly about Chayula, it's really best served as a solo-mfing tool and again the same argument can be put up against it as the DF, it just does not do enough in it's slot to merit the full time usage of it. You could be getting All Stats, All Res, Crit Chance, Crit Multi, Accuracy, Str, Lightning Damage, +ES, Life Leech, Mana Leech, and a host of other useful mods that can do a lot more for your overall picture than just the all stats, mf and cannot be stunned affixes of Chayula. I really want to stress that Chayula while it's great at first for newer Shadows getting into the higher end of the game makes people lazy. What I mean by this is when you get used to not having to kite multiple archers hitting you because you don't get the stun lock animation, you tend to forget how dangerous letting mobs hit you constantly can be. It just leads to poor mechanics and that shouldn't be an excuse to use an item when it's stats are inferior to a rare amulet you could pick up for the same price or cheaper if you're patient with the market.

In reference to the question about aura stack, you'd have to get the opinion of someone else as I don't run but two auras at once since I myself am lazy in that regard and rely on a team to do so since I am always running maps now. But if I had to take a guess at it you'd want 150 or so mana to operate with uncapped so that you could get out a couple of lightning strikes at a time and flicker strike through the mobs while you are regenerating mana from your leech.

Sin Treks are great for pvp, if you want a shoe more suited to this build for pve go for Rainbow Strides. They are a great niche item for our build type and they do everything you would want them to do for a pve shoe. If I had one drop into my lap I'd run them over Sin Treks for pve because of the extra layer of ES, Mana and Res which is handy for maps when you are cursed with elemental weakness and taken below capped res. The spell block is neat too.

You touched on what your belt needed already, str and WED. Get some accuracy on your hat!

Everything else looks alright, hope that helps you some.
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Thanks for your input. It seems that I linked the wrong passive tree :P I took out strong arm and the int node and put it into the accuracy(this is what i've got a bookmark of to follow on) And as for the ES, I simply like a 94pt build as it's the highest level i've gotten to so far with any character, and it's a nice amount of pts to start with, and my witch who is running 7k es that can do up to 73maps efficiently(its lacking dps)has roughly the same amount of %es from passives as what i have down atm, after I get my 94pts i would probably get the cluster of ES nodes that lead down to vaal pact aswell. As for my gear, it's pretty much just a mixture of what I already had/found in maps or bought for a few chaos to get me started. Also "% life leech" I accually ment the mana leech lol. As I hear some people have problems with mana on this build, however I think it's due to faster attacking daggers that have less crits. All-in-all ty for the help! I am definatly going to consider using another ring instead of DF, and I already have a decent manaregen/crits/physdmg/ev onyx ammy that I find quite good,probably wont be upgrading that one for a while XD

Np. When it comes to daggers and their attack speed, the lack of crit chance or multi doesn't hurt as much as people seem to think. It's more in the manner at which you use your skills. Mechanics sound like they only apply to a game like League of Legends, but they apply to this game too.

An example of this is just using a couple of lightning strikes in a row, then going into your flicker strike usage to clean up all the mobs. Some people choose to just spam lightning strike standing still and that works too, but you also end up losing out on a lot more mana and efficiency on your damage. So it's all in how you wanna play it or however it feels comfortable for your character.

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Anamaeus wrote:

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Vaux wrote:

Out of pure curiosity, has anyone tried this spec vs. invalesco's similar HP/Armor spec for PvP? Trying to decide which one will be stronger, if anyone has any input fire away.

If I had to wager in a heads up fight between two equally geared/leveled mirrors with the difference between them simply being this build vs that one I would put my money on the CI version. Why? Because we have a sneaky tool to our advantage that they aren't as equipped to defend against.

Viper Strike.

Nevermind. Hah.

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Critical strikes have been standardised in how they interact with repeating actions. The critical roll is made only once per action, regardless of how many repeats that action does.

Uh oh, what does this mean?

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Necrogue wrote:

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Critical strikes have been standardised in how they interact with repeating actions. The critical roll is made only once per action, regardless of how many repeats that action does.

Uh oh, what does this mean? Besides Chris misspelling standardized :D

would imagine for multistrike so it cant crit 3 times with 1 attack

I may be wrong, but i think it's more to do with the power charge on critical strike support.

For instance, for skills like double strike, you only need to do a critical roll once. if you succeed in it, both strikes are crits, but you only have a chance to gain one power charge instead of two.

So for a gem linked to multistrike, there will also be a critical roll once, and if you succeed in it, all strikes are crits, but again you will still only have a chance to gain one power charge rather than multiple. If each action were to have it's own critical roll, and if multistrike allowed you to deal three extra attacks for instance, if you succeeded in all four attacks you would potentially be able to gain four power charges in one single attack.

This will make it less easy for crit-based characters to accumulate power charges and will also serve to highlight the distinction between the support gem and the Voll's unique chestpiece.

Hi all I'm about to start a new character and I wonder if this build is current and viable at this time, Note: I have the items but I want to go up this character with this build.

It is feasible right now?

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Hola a todos estoy por comenzar un nuevo personaje y me gustaria saber si esta build esta actualizada y es viable en este momento, Nota: no tengo los items pero quiero ir subiendo este personaje con esta build.

Es viable en estos momentos?

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From already thank you very much and have good luck.


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Items not I have to build this build but I'll manage with what you have...
translator mistranslated and items I have not

Los items no los tengo para construir ese build pero me las arreglare con lo que tenga.
el traductor tradujo mal y los items no los tengo.

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pebeteclau wrote:

Hi all I'm about to start a new character and I wonder if this build is current and viable at this time, Note: I have the items but I want to go up this character with this build.

It is feasible right now?

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Hola a todos estoy por comenzar un nuevo personaje y me gustaria saber si esta build esta actualizada y es viable en este momento, Nota: no tengo los items pero quiero ir subiendo este personaje con esta build.

Es viable en estos momentos?

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From already thank you very much and have good luck.

Post your gear.

Here is my gear. Some of it is pretty bad but it's enough for maps.



Yes, I'm missing flicker strike for now. It can be a pain because I have to finish off stranglers by targeting each one. Seems like multistrike would help with that because it will auto target like flicker does.

I need some suggestions for where to start upgrading my gear. Currently lvl 63. I have a very nice ES vaal's regalia waiting for me to 6L it once I hit 68. I have a very nice dagger which I can use next level.

(Thinking of Divining the dagger. Good idea or no?)
Upgrades I have


My gear now


I'm working on getting a Maligoro's soon. Also I have the head piece strictly for the resists so i can run docks without issues.

I do feel that my dps is low but I'm not quite sure where/what to work on first. Any suggestions would be great.

Also note that I HAVE NOT specced into Ci yet since my ES is only at 1.2k. What's a good ES to make the switch?

Got a problem.
Shouldn't the Chaos immune phase part 2 be (93 points, approx lvl 74)?