[1.0.6] CI Crit Dagger Shadow (30k DPS Flicker Ninja) [OB video up!]

Hi, ive been loving this build and been having alot of fun so thx for that :D

this is my first char and i am currently lvl47, act 2 cruel has been pretty rough for me (i would say i die atleast once every 3-4maps and some mobs i have to kite alot with my LS).

I dont think my gear is that bad but the monsters hit really hard, can any1 help??
My stats are:
Life: 692
Shield: 926
Mana: 440, But i run discipline and hatred atm(with discipline my shield goes 1k+). I have 158 mana after buffs.
Double Strike: 859 with buffs.
Flicker Strike: 1028 with buffs.
Lightning Strike: 473 with buffs.

Any replies would be thankful :)

Use granite flasks, they will grant you some armor so the monsters hit you for less damage.

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casval776 wrote:

Finally hit a landmark level and upgraded to some nice new equips. Sitting at about 3.3k ES and I'm wondering how to prioritize defenses. I can get all my resists to 75% but it leaves me only running Hatred, Wrath, and Discipline. However, I can switch to full DPS rings and run Purity, leaving me with Hatred, Purity, and Discipline with a bit of a smaller mana pool.

So, long story short, I'm not quite sure how to prioritize defenses in regards to equips. I've never actually ran maps with a melee toon or anything that didn't use a bow. This is all a bit new to me.

Passives looking like:

Spoiler

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMBBX0HYw5IES8RUBGWFr8X2BnXHNwnqSo4Kwospiy_LOE3ZjeDO-FBh0ZxRwZW6lb1Vyte-l9qbRlwUnBWcNVzU3WKerh9435Zf8aCx4hCiGuMC46KkBuTJ5Ugl9CZmpoTnaOio6brpyunNKxmrpO0DLTFtve5Prl8u9bAUcBUwcXB88Lsw23QOdQF2HbbbtvU4vfjhOaB6f7rY-wY7LDz6vyr

And equips:

Spoiler

Before anyone asks, there's no way in hell I'm supporting LS with 4 supports, so I chose to use the chestpiece for holding auras.

Nevermind all of this, found another Reduced Mana on my Templar.
I think this is the best compromise I can come up with in regards to resists+DPS:



2365 DPS Lightning Strike
2710 DPS Double Strike
3369 DPS Flicker Strike

Time to finish Act 3.

My Shadow is now level 65 and I changed to Chaos Inoculation today. I find it really hard to get the 3k energy shield. Getting the proper items for this build is very frustrating.

I've got 1750 ES with discipline and all resis max now. And when I do progress (merciless act 2) I die very often. I use amour flasks as well, but some mobs just one-shot me.

My DPS is very good (3k with main attack), but the survivability of this build is just crap, if you don't have highend gear :>

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hypers1 wrote:

My Shadow is now level 65 and I changed to Chaos Inoculation today. I find it really hard to get the 3k energy shield. Getting the proper items for this build is very frustrating.

I've got 1750 ES with discipline and all resis max now. And when I do progress (merciless act 2) I die very often. I use amour flasks as well, but some mobs just one-shot me.

My DPS is very good (3k with main attack), but the survivability of this build is just crap, if you don't have highend gear :>

Ya, that's the wall almost everyone will hit. My personal recommendation is that it might be better for players finding it frustrating at this point to roll a new character, level it, farm with it, and continue to have fun while keeping an eye out for suitable gear for your dagger shadow. That way, your gameplay experience won't have to be that frustrating :)

P.S. you took CI too early :p

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DrSlump wrote:

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Makavelit0t0 wrote:

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DrSlump wrote:

I am wondering which support gems will be the best for Double Strike and Flicker strike for this build: Melee physical damage, Melee damage on full life, increase critical damage, increase critical strikes. Do we need DPS or crit?

crit for survivaability i think for granit flask fills faster hence u can spam the shit out of them

melee dmg for pure dmg outraw and ofc u leech back life but u wont have so much granit flask to spam out, but u leech more es back

About crit, which one would you recommend between Increase critical damage and Increase critical strikes?

for flicker strike try to go pure dmg, crit strike and crit dmg with it, and the 4:e slot can be increase physical dmg so it can be pure dmg so when you see your es go down and u have frenzy charges you just hold the flicker strike button and see your es rise again fast, imo i think it really shows its potential with vaal pact.

and flicker strike with melee phys and melee full life dmg would make you get ur es back but not as fast imo, thats why i go for crit and crit dmg, espically when you crit since it haves a high chance to crit

Having played this build now since the launch of OB I can honestly say that it does work and is good. It's also great fun but is a lot of work. The build is very viable in high end map groups and very useful there, is it the strongest shadow build, i dont think so, but one of it's greatest strengths is how complex it is. You can't afford to just spam 1 thing, you have to use all your abilities to do good damage and stay alive.

The major piece of advice I would give for when you start maps is either buy Dream Fragments or have at least 2 pots that remove freeze, because that is what will kill you the most.

Final thoughts, I say it's good, I say it's fun but it's a lot of work, my main is 77 I do around 6-7K DPS and it's taken me 8 days played and a lot of luck to get there.

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crazy4u wrote:

Hi, ive been loving this build and been having alot of fun so thx for that :D

this is my first char and i am currently lvl47, act 2 cruel has been pretty rough for me (i would say i die atleast once every 3-4maps and some mobs i have to kite alot with my LS).

I dont think my gear is that bad but the monsters hit really hard, can any1 help??
My stats are:
Life: 692
Shield: 926
Mana: 440, But i run discipline and hatred atm(with discipline my shield goes 1k+). I have 158 mana after buffs.
Double Strike: 859 with buffs.
Flicker Strike: 1028 with buffs.
Lightning Strike: 473 with buffs.

Any replies would be thankful :)

You should be stacking Armour and HP, and use granite flasks. I had around 2.2k DPS with double strike at your level. Try upgrading your gear, esp your weapon. I'm on act 3 cruel at lvl 53 on HC, not having any real problems yet.

Trying this build out as my new character. I have 2 others over 70, and a third at 65ish.
Currently sitting at lvl 53 with my CI shadow, about to start Merciless.

1.6k life
475 mana

LS = 1100 dps
FS = 1300 dps
DS = 1550 dps

unbuffed. Flicker touches 2k with frenzy charges.

Managed to pick up a nice dagger for a good price, so my dmg output is decent for the level. I'm feeling a little squishy as I invested many points into setting up the transition to CI rather than pumping them into life nodes.

Mana is an issue, and having only 4L gear for this level I am having to sacrifice LMP and Pierce. Currently running LS with Weapon Elemental, Life on Hit, and Mana leech. Switching out Leech for LMP makes farming SO much easier, but I hate chain chugging pots. Running only clarity aura right now, again as a result of mana issues.

My other characters were sitting around 2k-2.5k HP at this stage in the game and were considerably more forgiving. I have Mon and Tues off work so I should be able to make some good progress.

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casval776 wrote:

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casval776 wrote:

Finally hit a landmark level and upgraded to some nice new equips. Sitting at about 3.3k ES and I'm wondering how to prioritize defenses. I can get all my resists to 75% but it leaves me only running Hatred, Wrath, and Discipline. However, I can switch to full DPS rings and run Purity, leaving me with Hatred, Purity, and Discipline with a bit of a smaller mana pool.

So, long story short, I'm not quite sure how to prioritize defenses in regards to equips. I've never actually ran maps with a melee toon or anything that didn't use a bow. This is all a bit new to me.

Passives looking like:

Spoiler

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMBBX0HYw5IES8RUBGWFr8X2BnXHNwnqSo4Kwospiy_LOE3ZjeDO-FBh0ZxRwZW6lb1Vyte-l9qbRlwUnBWcNVzU3WKerh9435Zf8aCx4hCiGuMC46KkBuTJ5Ugl9CZmpoTnaOio6brpyunNKxmrpO0DLTFtve5Prl8u9bAUcBUwcXB88Lsw23QOdQF2HbbbtvU4vfjhOaB6f7rY-wY7LDz6vyr

And equips:

Spoiler

Before anyone asks, there's no way in hell I'm supporting LS with 4 supports, so I chose to use the chestpiece for holding auras.

Nevermind all of this, found another Reduced Mana on my Templar.
I think this is the best compromise I can come up with in regards to resists+DPS:

Spoiler

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/841/sijedefense.png/

2365 DPS Lightning Strike
2710 DPS Double Strike
3369 DPS Flicker Strike

Time to finish Act 3.

I am confused. this might sound dumb but i add 1066 on your total ES from items linked. Is your discipline so high it makes you hop to 3300? or is it 3300 with discipline plus CI innoc bonus. Thanks!