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Raphidex wrote:
Well, we are in the Shadow Forum, but i need to ask...
I'm thinking run that build with Ranger and i maked that tree:
You think i really go ahead with that idea ?
Thank you :)
Well of course.Endgame the shadow will be just marginally more powerfull than the ranger,due to the better starting area for this build.Otherwise it is the same.Your tree looks pretty good.I wouldn't take that duelist frenzy charge though.I think 6 frenzies are more than enough,nothing will stand your flickering for so long.After that THere are better passives to spend for 2 points.EG. in your case instead of spending 2 points on the last frenzy i would haste on the shadow starting area,since 12% speed+10% physical+20 dexterity,beats the 15% speed that frenzy will give you,and it is permanent,no need to gain them.Of course it would buff your frenzy attack more,but haste will be better for flicker and lightning strike,or double strike that u ll use for leveling or full parties.My 2 cents :)
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/417287 - Poutsos Flicker Nuke Shadow
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Posted byPoutsos#0458on Nov 8, 2013, 8:09:57 AM
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Poutsos wrote:
Your links on bringer of rain should be:Flicker-multistrike-increased critical damage-blood magic(also melee physical and faster attacks and blind which are free:P).This way you will not -ever- have mana issues.Your auras should be hatred-discipline-tempest shield(yeah u can have these 3 with a lv 20 reduced mana),which will give u a total of 62% block.
So far so good.Even spending a socket on blood magic,with the increased physical damage of bringer of rain and a great dagger will give you crazy DPS,no quetion about it.Also,apart from your armour,since u ll be attacking lightning fast,u ll also be bliding monsters,and paired with 62% block u ll have a great chance of avoid damage(overall over 70% for attacks,if not more,spells will be your real enemy).Now here are the problems that will arise:
1)Elemental resists.Elemental damage IMO is the most dangerous thing in this game.Also to answer your quetion on why u r getting one shot and what to improve,CAP YOUR RESISTS.I can't say this enough.Before increasing your HP,or your armour get all your resists at the absolute minimum of 65%,which still is not enough.Back on topic,my suggest build doesnt take too much resistances,and these 3 uniques that i suggested,plus maligaro's,don't provide resists at all.That means that ur belt,rings and amulet + purity(yeah u ll need it),should be able to cap your resists.I know u already bought a magnate,but for now i suggest to get an all resist belt,preferably with life.Actually Meginord's( http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Meginord's_Girdle) at this point will be better if u also want a DPS belt,since it will increase your damage(abit less than magnate),your life and it has cold resistance.Also a great advantage of life builds is that u won't have to use "eye of chayula" and u can get a great DPS amulet.But as i said,cap your resists,it won't be easy but it is nescesery.
2)Will life leech from blood rage will be able to keep you alive,considering the use of blood magic gem,and the debuff from blood rage killing most of your life regeneration?Well that remains to be seen, and i can't be sure about it,BUT with good gear your HP should be at least 4K,so that means that life leech rate cap+life regen will heal 1200 life per second.Even if blood rage,plus flicker will reduce that for about 500life per second,u ll still be able to heal for over 600 which i think will be enough.
Well thats the best i can do as far as suggestions go for a life based version of this build :P.I think your quetions have been answered.On the quetion regarding what to upgrade,i d say the rings.You need life and resists(remember you should cap them!)
EDIT: End game,if u are able to cap your resists with 1 ring-amulet-belt and purity(difficult tast),an incredible option would be this ring: http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Ming's_Heart . Not only it gives rediculous DPS increase,but this alone,without any other chaos resists,will increase your chaos resist from -60 +16% from the tree,u ll be around 15% chaos res,which will help greatly with blood rage,and chaos mobs in general
can confirm that blood dance works with the hp build, but i will have to disagree about using discipline, because once you get hit and loose all es, blood rage and your regen (from frenzy/blood dance) will be constantly taking off eating/regening your hp, so es will never regen
ran grace with hatred on mine, with little mana to spare (havent gotten any mana passives on him yet) but have enough to flicker a few times (5 link) then wait for mind drinker to kick in
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Posted byswizzleigh#5523on Nov 8, 2013, 8:21:34 AM
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Poutsos wrote:
Your links on bringer of rain should be:Flicker-multistrike-increased critical damage-blood magic(also melee physical and faster attacks and blind which are free:P).This way you will not -ever- have mana issues.Your auras should be hatred-discipline-tempest shield(yeah u can have these 3 with a lv 20 reduced mana),which will give u a total of 62% block.
So far so good.Even spending a socket on blood magic,with the increased physical damage of bringer of rain and a great dagger will give you crazy DPS,no quetion about it.Also,apart from your armour,since u ll be attacking lightning fast,u ll also be bliding monsters,and paired with 62% block u ll have a great chance of avoid damage(overall over 70% for attacks,if not more,spells will be your real enemy).Now here are the problems that will arise:
1)Elemental resists.Elemental damage IMO is the most dangerous thing in this game.Also to answer your quetion on why u r getting one shot and what to improve,CAP YOUR RESISTS.I can't say this enough.Before increasing your HP,or your armour get all your resists at the absolute minimum of 65%,which still is not enough.Back on topic,my suggest build doesnt take too much resistances,and these 3 uniques that i suggested,plus maligaro's,don't provide resists at all.That means that ur belt,rings and amulet + purity(yeah u ll need it),should be able to cap your resists.I know u already bought a magnate,but for now i suggest to get an all resist belt,preferably with life.Actually Meginord's( http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Meginord's_Girdle) at this point will be better if u also want a DPS belt,since it will increase your damage(abit less than magnate),your life and it has cold resistance.Also a great advantage of life builds is that u won't have to use "eye of chayula" and u can get a great DPS amulet.But as i said,cap your resists,it won't be easy but it is nescesery.
2)Will life leech from blood rage will be able to keep you alive,considering the use of blood magic gem,and the debuff from blood rage killing most of your life regeneration?Well that remains to be seen, and i can't be sure about it,BUT with good gear your HP should be at least 4K,so that means that life leech rate cap+life regen will heal 1200 life per second.Even if blood rage,plus flicker will reduce that for about 500life per second,u ll still be able to heal for over 600 which i think will be enough.
Well thats the best i can do as far as suggestions go for a life based version of this build :P.I think your quetions have been answered.On the quetion regarding what to upgrade,i d say the rings.You need life and resists(remember you should cap them!)
EDIT: End game,if u are able to cap your resists with 1 ring-amulet-belt and purity(difficult tast),an incredible option would be this ring: http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Ming's_Heart . Not only it gives rediculous DPS increase,but this alone,without any other chaos resists,will increase your chaos resist from -60 +16% from the tree,u ll be around 15% chaos res,which will help greatly with blood rage,and chaos mobs in general
can confirm that blood dance works with the hp build, but i will have to disagree about using discipline, because once you get hit and loose all es, blood rage and your regen (from frenzy/blood dance) will be constantly taking off eating/regening your hp, so es will never regen
ran grace with hatred on mine, with little mana to spare (havent gotten any mana passives on him yet) but have enough to flicker a few times (5 link) then wait for mind drinker to kick in
Oh boy!Did i really wrote dicipline??????Well when i made that post it was after a long day and was really tired.I meant Purity.My suggestion is purity-hatred-tempest shield.With purity u can stack these 3.If u are able to cap your resists,then grace might be better!
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/417287 - Poutsos Flicker Nuke Shadow
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Posted byPoutsos#0458on Nov 8, 2013, 8:45:36 AM
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Poutsos wrote:
Oh boy!Did i really wrote dicipline??????Well when i made that post it was after a long day and was really tired.I meant Purity.My suggestion is purity-hatred-tempest shield.With purity u can stack these 3.If u are able to cap your resists,then grace might be better!
knew that was some sort of typo on your part :P
actually tried running eldritch battery, but i dont have enough es on my gear, just enough difference between flickering for a few seconds and just holding it down and spamming, and you dont really need to spam it anyway
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Posted byswizzleigh#5523on Nov 8, 2013, 8:52:41 AM
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Added 2 new videos
Double Vaal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcksbxaYtYE&feature=youtu.be
Playing with Lightning Strike as a main attack for fun and testing(lightning Arrow what?:P)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq4zpzBC0OQhttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/417287 - Poutsos Flicker Nuke Shadow
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Posted byPoutsos#0458on Nov 8, 2013, 10:33:35 AM
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alvarez69 wrote:
Shouldn't this be mirror worthy? Finding a good chest is harder than I thought. My resists are fine... I only want a 6L and high ES. Most I can find are around 700-750 ES tops and I'd have to chrome the hell out of them too.
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Poutsos wrote:
Sweet videos :) Let me know how additional accuracy works out for you.
IGN: Sin Last edited by Make_A_Witch_Foundation#5843 on Nov 8, 2013, 11:48:55 AM
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Hi Poutsos, i just started 2 days ago and i'm lvl 27 now
i see that you have a lot of builds i wanna know which one should i follow?
and i've seen your videos why does your flicker strike automatically uses lightning strike when mine doesn't
what gem should i use to train now?
and what weapon should i be using? 2 daggers, 1 claw etc.
sorry for the noob questions
Thanks!
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Posted byJustAMemory#6705on Nov 8, 2013, 1:47:05 PM
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Make_A_Witch_Foundation wrote:
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Poutsos wrote:
Sweet videos :) Let me know how additional accuracy works out for you.
THanks!Oh about additional accuracy,after putting some though and did some testing with tabulara rasa,it is the best choice fo me for the 6th gem.Let me explain:
My choices for the 6th gem are:
1)melee physical damage:Well thats flat out the best DPS choice,no quetion about it.IT increases my AoE DPS from 111K to almost 170K.However after running some calculations,it will kill me on reflect,and i don't want that,now that i overcame that issue :P
2)Increased critical strikes:My crit chance on flicker currently is 92.5%,which means i don't need that gem.I could drop some crit from the tree and spent these points elsewere,but i don't like that option,since my frenzy stands at 84.5% crit chance,and i don't want it to be lower,since is my face tanking skill.
3)Additional Accuracy:Well i don't know if u are familiar with how chance to hit and crits work,but it goes like this.1)Rolls your accuracy to see if u land a hit 2)rolls your crit chance to see if u land a crit 3)Rolls your chance to hit AGAIN,to see if ur critical will be downgraded to a normal attack That last part is not calculated on the tooltip DPS.That automatically means,that now that my crit chance is 90%+,my chance to hit is a bigger factor to if will crit or not,not to mention the destructive consequences of my attack missing=not leeching.Aditional accuracy increases my chance to hit from 87% to 92.5%,and the quality gives 40% crit that also caps my crit chance with flicker strike!Last but not least it doesnt increase the mana cost of the attack.So this gem is pretty much my best option!
JustAMemory-Hey man!I do not have alto of builds.These are leveling guides.Also it doesn't automatically uses lightning strike.I do it manually :D.I just attack pretty fast.The gem u should use is double strike.For weapons,go for the best one handed u have and a shield.Claw is a good choice until higher level,cause it allows you gain life on hit which increases your survivability.Thanks for checking the guide.However if you are new to the game,and this is your first characer,well i wouldnt suggest u trying this build.It is very very difficult to build and level,and expensive :/
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/417287 - Poutsos Flicker Nuke Shadow
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Posted byPoutsos#0458on Nov 8, 2013, 4:35:27 PM
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And now there is a better dagger out there,just 5 days that i had the pleasure of a having a BiS one :/ http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/515441 .Well the upside is that i mirrored mine for free,just the 1 eternal that i provided https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/417287 - Poutsos Flicker Nuke Shadow
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Posted byPoutsos#0458on Nov 8, 2013, 8:26:57 PM
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Can u suggest me a passive skill tree with Scion class? I really like your build but i wanna try it with Scion
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