Lv96 Poutsos' Flicker Nuke - Outdated

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Forie wrote:

Hey,
I was impressed my ur videos so I thought I give it a try, however I decided to go for a life based character (I knew I gona have lower dps because I lose the 'damage on full life' thing) So If I post my gear and tree would you have a look and give me a hint how to improve my dps. Im lvl 72 Shadow.

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https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYABLEFtQzyDkgRlha_GtsbrR4aI_YkPCSdJP0mlSepKCoppTBUOJY94j7PSO5KfUxgTipRR1VLVvVW-loaWkhabVuvXPlh4mJaYqxjQ2egbXtwUnBWeK5_xod2h9uIQow2jX2Nv5AblWaX0JlXmhOdo52qpn-nNKp_qrixs7TFtUi2QbcXt9O95sBRwcXC7NN-1QDWndfL29TdDeOE51TrFO1B7g7v8PLh8-r5Y_yr_MX_kw==

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So currently have around 17k dps on flicker strike with the blood rage, 7 frienzy and 4 powercharges and the hatred aura. (in town flicker has 6k dps on tooltip) I think some other builds would love 17k dps haha but on this glass cannon I kinda need more.


I have couple of questions.

1, Which Should be the next item I should upgrade?
I was thinking Shield -> Amulet -> Rings -> Dagger ... Or what specific items should I go first, which is like essential for me to get better dps. (maybe Death rush ring -> The Magnate Belt? ) Im not like a rich guy so it takes me time to farm currency I can upgrade 1 at a time so let me know which item should be first to upgrade. I think you will say to get a better dagger, but I already payed a lot for this and Cant afford a better one right now, so I want to focus on other items. (but if you say I should get a better dagger first, ill listen to you) When you talk about items be reasonable like I said I cant afford an item with like 20exalt

2, Flicker strike-MultiStrike-IncCritDmg-MeleeSplash-Culling Stike?
Since I dont have high dps to finis enemies in group fights, I found out culling strike is a good way to keep frienzy up. So thats my 5th gem in chest. Do you think its alright to have that or shall I use something different for the 5th socket? (probably if i swap it ill have difficulties to keep frienzy up. even if its just a 2 men party)

3, How to deal with Blood Rage debuff?
Im life based so i need to handle the chaos dmg, I use pots, but I need to pop 2x if im not in a fight. I quite ignored my pots cause i have no idea what stats I should look for exactly when I craft them. I dont think I should invest in chaos resist because I cant afford to have that over the basic stats. So I think its the pots but shall I get instant recoveries or hmm.. or if theres another way to deal with the debuff let me know.

4, Is my Passive Tree okay?
Just let me know if im doing something horribly worng. I picked up an extra int node so I can use my dagger, Ill respec that one later.

5, How can I improve my dps without going CI ?
By the time you get to this question I think everything is cleared but If i miss something essential, let me know.

6, Getting 1 shotted?
On some maps the final boss can 1 or 2 shot me, I have 2,8k-3k life if I swap a ring, U think i should focus getting more life or armour or resits? I think I can pick up 2-3 more life nodes.

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7, Auras?
I use hatred, dont know if I will be able to use 2, maybe when I fully level up reduced mana gem and I havent picked up the aura passives. In my talent I picked up iron reflexes, so I kinda want to use grace. Shall I use something else. I think hatred is a must so I dont want to swap that.

I think I provided all info you need to give me hints how to improve my character. Cause i dont know what to do next, find a bit hard to do maps. If you think this character is total garbage just say it I dont mind if you say such things, at least i dont waste more time.

I would really appreciate some help, and thanks for your time

Hey mate!We talked abit ingame,and i told you that i beleive the best option is to go CI,mainly not because of DPS,but the instant life leech u can have with vaal pact without drabacks,using blood rage again with no drawbacks,higher pool...However i toyed abit with the idea of a life build and started getting fond of it.I still beleive that CI will be better,but a life build will be intesting.Let me explain.Here is my recommended end game skill tree for a life build:


And it would definetely use these uniques:(the prices that i say are standar league prices,dunno about new leagues :/)
1)Bringer of Rain(http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/The_Bringer_of_Rain)-Well this item is insane and cheap compared to what it can offer(around 5 ex).A 6L(7L actually) paired with 15% block,physical damage and very very large life pool.The armour you ll get is also not bad at all.
2)Lioneye's Remorse(http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Lioneye's_Remorse)Again this shield is very cheap 2-4 GCP)for what it offers.Very large life pool,very high armour,and addional block chance.Paired with bringer of rain and the tree will get a total of 58% block chance which is amazing
3)The blood dance boots(http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/The_Blood_Dance)-Here is the answer to your quetion regarding how u can deal with the blood rage debuff.With the tree and 7 frenzy charges,u ll have 9.5%life regeneration per sec,which not only will completely kill the bloodrage debuff,but will also allow you to actually regenerate health with blood rage on :D.

Your links on bringer of rain should be:Flicker-multistrike-increased critical damage-blood magic(also melee physical and faster attacks and blind which are free:P).This way you will not -ever- have mana issues.Your auras should be hatred-discipline-tempest shield(yeah u can have these 3 with a lv 20 reduced mana),which will give u a total of 62% block.
So far so good.Even spending a socket on blood magic,with the increased physical damage of bringer of rain and a great dagger will give you crazy DPS,no quetion about it.Also,apart from your armour,since u ll be attacking lightning fast,u ll also be bliding monsters,and paired with 62% block u ll have a great chance of avoid damage(overall over 70% for attacks,if not more,spells will be your real enemy).Now here are the problems that will arise:
1)Elemental resists.Elemental damage IMO is the most dangerous thing in this game.Also to answer your quetion on why u r getting one shot and what to improve,CAP YOUR RESISTS.I can't say this enough.Before increasing your HP,or your armour get all your resists at the absolute minimum of 65%,which still is not enough.Back on topic,my suggest build doesnt take too much resistances,and these 3 uniques that i suggested,plus maligaro's,don't provide resists at all.That means that ur belt,rings and amulet + purity(yeah u ll need it),should be able to cap your resists.I know u already bought a magnate,but for now i suggest to get an all resist belt,preferably with life.Actually Meginord's(http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Meginord's_Girdle) at this point will be better if u also want a DPS belt,since it will increase your damage(abit less than magnate),your life and it has cold resistance.Also a great advantage of life builds is that u won't have to use "eye of chayula" and u can get a great DPS amulet.But as i said,cap your resists,it won't be easy but it is nescesery.
2)Will life leech from blood rage will be able to keep you alive,considering the use of blood magic gem,and the debuff from blood rage killing most of your life regeneration?Well that remains to be seen, and i can't be sure about it,BUT with good gear your HP should be at least 4K,so that means that life leech rate cap+life regen will heal 1200 life per second.Even if blood rage,plus flicker will reduce that for about 500life per second,u ll still be able to heal for over 600 which i think will be enough.

Well thats the best i can do as far as suggestions go for a life based version of this build :P.I think your quetions have been answered.On the quetion regarding what to upgrade,i d say the rings.You need life and resists(remember you should cap them!)

EDIT: End game,if u are able to cap your resists with 1 ring-amulet-belt and purity(difficult tast),an incredible option would be this ring: http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Ming's_Heart . Not only it gives rediculous DPS increase,but this alone,without any other chaos resists,will increase your chaos resist from -60 +16% from the tree,u ll be around 15% chaos res,which will help greatly with blood rage,and chaos mobs in general

That is quite interesting. When we were talking ingame, I started thinking to go CI, but now reading all these, I actually like the idea, I just dont know if I can ever get 5exalts for the Bringer of Rain. Now you kinda convinced me to stay life based. but your original build as CI sounds cool too. How much dps you would expect with those items you mentioned earlier.

I think I just stay life based until I get some currency
Thanks for you time.

Hi Poutsos thank you for posting your build and ideas. Just started out a shadow and even at low level im having fun with flickerstrike :D.

I'm going life based for now since that is easier and cheaper when it comes to gearing. Also your above ideas about bringer of rain and such are correct I think. (Uniques are easy to find in trade, and usually have a certain value)

This guy: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/495642

Has a build which is diffrent but, hes using sharkskin boots to counter the life drain and it does seem to work out well with a bit of life leech. So I was already toying with that idea of going shadow dagger, but life based including some of those items.

It's nice to see diffrent ideas and how they work out.

My CI witch ficker build is doing great things, but for those life based guys out there don't lose hope! Before I spec'd my Witch into this build I used my blender build to level up some of the gems. I swapped my cyclone gem for flicker in my BoR and put on blood dance boots.

That build wasn't even geared towards flicker or daggers (I have axe nodes and no crit, using RT) and I still tore apart anything up to lunaris and sceptre of god if I was careful enough. With enough frenzy charges and regen it seems pretty viable.

As for my Witch... oh man! My shield and chest piece suck, so I'll be on the lookout for upgrading those. I really want a 6L with 1K ES and some int/mana... got a shitty 5L for now. Still using rathpith for a bit of ES. Once I upgrade those I should be back in high level maps again. :D






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Got a deal on an abyssus so I figured I'd try it out. Also had a dream fragments from when my witch was FP back in the day. I figured out why my mana cost was so insane... remember how I said I didn't need to run clarity because my regen was fine and I just needed a bigger mana pool? Well, I figured empower would be cool to stack on the +2 helm for a +4 over all. However, I completely forgot about the 125% mana multiplier on empower ;) I unlinked Empower and I'm doing fine on mana haha. I'm running abyssus for now and kept deaths rush because I like the leech, onslaught, and accuracy. I run a few dispel frozen/chilled flasks so hopefully that will be enough.

Hi there !

I wanted to ask where does your 5k+ armour comes from ?
I don't see any on gear .. (maybe granit flasks but i don't know how it works i mean you have to drink it right ? could anyone explain plz ?)

--Forie - It was late when i posted that yesterday.On my suggested links for BoR you need melee splash instead of increased critical damage.Well BoR might be kinda expensive,but the CI version would definetely be even more.As for DPS,well if i tried that version with my daggaer,the DPS woulf propably the same,or maybe higher than what i got now,due to the increased physical tha BoR gives and the use of a crit amulet.However if i had a 6L,the CI version would always win out.

--Dgzorz-always nice to hear ppl are trying flicker builds.My suggestion however is to level with double strike and start using flicker only in end game(level 70-75+ and if yu have the gear for it).Even myself,when i play full parties,i use double strike,which is completely lame compared to flicker.Also by build is not a perma flicker one.It uses 3 attacks almost equally.IMO flicker on it's own isn't that viable.You definetely need a high DPS tanking attack(frenzy).Also lightning strike works great as well,since with high crit chance,not only it shocks istantly for 90% more damage,also it is a great way to stack power charges very fast and from distance.Since i removed abysus,i leveled from level 86 to 89,with only 2 legilimate deaths on the map version of dominus.

--Make_A_Witch_foundation- Good to hear that somebody tried that flicker with BoR and it works,even on an unoptimised spec.I have no doubts that your witch will work wonders.And yeah,with abysus the damage scales so high that a dispel potion is enough.You might wanna use dream fragments for the graveyard,necropolis and waste pools bosses,but thats it.

--Slitaz - Yeah that armour comes from the granite flask.When CI you don't need life potions.so u can use granites instead.Also the extreme high kill speed,paired with the increased flask recharge from magnate(if you use it),will allow to use them constatly up

Funny story.I was running a public party yesterday and was a guy playing blender build,bragging about his gear(which was op),and his 6K HP,13K armour and 45K DPS.So we played a torture chamber with -resists and additional projectiles,and he went on and died,then the whoke party died except me and on other guy,and i basically killed that boss(which currently is harder than temple Piety)with such crazy mods and with 6 man HP(750% increased),almost all by myself,using double strike(my full party attack).yeah the build is definetely viable :D.In the pas i only cared about it being really fun,but it scales wonderfully with good gear

I grabbed a quality double strike gem and I've been using that instead of flicker for now. It's great for single target and since I'm not comfortable with my overall ES it's a bit more predictable and I can manage it better (especially against reflect).

Once I upgrade my shield and possibly chest I'll be ready to run some high level maps again. Lemme know when you're up for running some.. I don't mind chipping in to help roll them :) Hopefully I can grab another level or two and then go all out DPS. I figure 95 is a good stopping point haha.



Anyway, current tree:

Dropped lots of mana since I removed Empower and I'm doing fine now. Since I miss some phys dmg nodes in Shadow start I picked up fencing because it's so close. I also dropped the Alphas Howl idea... it works good, but I like the dps of Abyssus :) I use death rush most of the time, but have a dispel frozen/chilled equipped and a dream fragments on standby. I could have gone IR with a hybrid chest and my high armor helm, but without running grace or determination I don't really think it's worth it.

So.. Maybe I'm missing something here. But according to the guide you grab CI AND Acrobatics? Or am I missing something?

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GingerSamurai wrote:

So.. Maybe I'm missing something here. But according to the guide you grab CI AND Acrobatics? Or am I missing something?

Well, no!I don't see anywhere mentioning acrobatics :/

Well, we are in the Shadow Forum, but i need to ask...

I'm thinking run that build with Ranger and i maked that tree:



You think i really go ahead with that idea ?

Thank you :)