Lv96 Poutsos' Flicker Nuke - Outdated

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Poutsos wrote:
Hey guys.For now i ll just update the skill tree.

LV93


I decided to pick unwavering stance+IR for now.
Stats:8.5K ES and 150K AoE DPS with splash.
my amulet is very averange though.
What remains to be seen is how we can deal with reflect.I ve run into a couple of reflect packs in lunaris,and had no problem,but i cant say anything without testing in 76-78 maps.
However the build with the current version of the skill tree has better potential than before,with or without US.I hope i ll be able to test more to update.
You propably now that i ve already quit the game 2 months ago,playing only every now and then,but at some point i will try to update the guide anyway.TY

edit:Bajo,abyssus is definetely out of the quetion


Thanks for keeping this updated. I'm looking for a fast clearing build for the new SC league (ambush) and I'm still trying to find out if this is the one to pick.
In-game: WrongHoleBaby
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Poutsos wrote:
Hey guys.For now i ll just update the skill tree.

LV93


I decided to pick unwavering stance+IR for now.
Stats:8.5K ES and 150K AoE DPS with splash.
my amulet is very averange though.
What remains to be seen is how we can deal with reflect.I ve run into a couple of reflect packs in lunaris,and had no problem,but i cant say anything without testing in 76-78 maps.
However the build with the current version of the skill tree has better potential than before,with or without US.I hope i ll be able to test more to update.
You propably now that i ve already quit the game 2 months ago,playing only every now and then,but at some point i will try to update the guide anyway.TY

edit:Bajo,abyssus is definetely out of the quetion


TY so much "Pou" ;)

one little question... ok, I can understand why u pick up Unwavering Stance, and then drop Chayula... but why pick up IR? U think our EV (from passive and gear) it's high enough to give a relative good bonus to armor, considering the amount of passive points to get it?
Last edited by Rhadoo#2345 on Mar 6, 2014, 4:47:06 AM
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Araycan wrote:
Imho, going with Shadow now is not optimal, it wastes too much points on VP (about the same amount as before though), but now VP can be reched much easier as a Scion.

Here is the Scion version:

Scion Flicker..er

Around +25% attck speed and +8% block compared to Shadow, 36% less one-nanded damage, around the same ES and crit, doesn't waste points on Arcane Focus from witch tree (which gives only 4.3% ES per point invested), instead getting to the Scion ES cluster.

Although if you do want US and IR, Shadow version is better as in that case Scion's benefit of having 2 separate starts loses its meaning.



..enough of Scion everywhere! Shadow r so much coooool!! lol :D


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Rhadoo wrote:
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Araycan wrote:
Imho, going with Shadow now is not optimal, it wastes too much points on VP (about the same amount as before though), but now VP can be reched much easier as a Scion.

Here is the Scion version:

Scion Flicker..er

Around +25% attck speed and +8% block compared to Shadow, 36% less one-nanded damage, around the same ES and crit, doesn't waste points on Arcane Focus from witch tree (which gives only 4.3% ES per point invested), instead getting to the Scion ES cluster.

Although if you do want US and IR, Shadow version is better as in that case Scion's benefit of having 2 separate starts loses its meaning.



..enough of Scion everywhere! Shadow r so much coooool!! lol :D



I see no reasons not to take Unwavering Stance for just 6 points. Furthermore, you can invest 14 more points for Deadly Precision and Disemboweling (sweet 260% increased crit chance, along with other bonuses).
So, Scion still sucks.
IGN: MortalKombat
Molten Strike build guide: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1346504

There is no knowledge
That is not power
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Rhadoo wrote:
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Poutsos wrote:
Hey guys.For now i ll just update the skill tree.

LV93


I decided to pick unwavering stance+IR for now.
Stats:8.5K ES and 150K AoE DPS with splash.
my amulet is very averange though.
What remains to be seen is how we can deal with reflect.I ve run into a couple of reflect packs in lunaris,and had no problem,but i cant say anything without testing in 76-78 maps.
However the build with the current version of the skill tree has better potential than before,with or without US.I hope i ll be able to test more to update.
You propably now that i ve already quit the game 2 months ago,playing only every now and then,but at some point i will try to update the guide anyway.TY

edit:Bajo,abyssus is definetely out of the quetion


TY so much "Pou" ;)

one little question... ok, I can understand why u pick up Unwavering Stance, and then drop Chayula... but why pick up IR? U think our EV (from passive and gear) it's high enough to give a relative good bonus to armor, considering the amount of passive points to get it?


..oooh, I see!! with US we can't evade!! so put our EV in armor will be the right move... i'm right? ;)
I think, it's much better dont use evasion at all.
IGN: MortalKombat
Molten Strike build guide: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1346504

There is no knowledge
That is not power
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Rhadoo wrote:
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Poutsos wrote:
Hey guys.For now i ll just update the skill tree.

LV93


I decided to pick unwavering stance+IR for now.
Stats:8.5K ES and 150K AoE DPS with splash.
my amulet is very averange though.
What remains to be seen is how we can deal with reflect.I ve run into a couple of reflect packs in lunaris,and had no problem,but i cant say anything without testing in 76-78 maps.
However the build with the current version of the skill tree has better potential than before,with or without US.I hope i ll be able to test more to update.
You propably now that i ve already quit the game 2 months ago,playing only every now and then,but at some point i will try to update the guide anyway.TY

edit:Bajo,abyssus is definetely out of the quetion


TY so much "Pou" ;)

one little question... ok, I can understand why u pick up Unwavering Stance, and then drop Chayula... but why pick up IR? U think our EV (from passive and gear) it's high enough to give a relative good bonus to armor, considering the amount of passive points to get it?



Thanks guys!Ur are all completely right.IR reflexes ist worth it.My thinking was,to dump hatred for reflect maps and use grace instead,so it would be usefull there.However there is on detail that i forgot.Since i swap in flicker melee on full life for life leech gem,and on frenzy i swap melee on ful for life leech,AND melee physical for added fire,i realised that,since with the gem i can leech of elemental damage,i was loosing a big portion of my leech so it was not worth it at all.I tested 2 75 reflect maps.While they seem harder,they are still very much possible :D.However if someone wants to use hybrid gear,then it would be worth it,but i generally advise against it
Here is my current tree:


Everything is potentially better than before:
On the last version of my tree pre 1.1(which i had not posted here,since i wasnt updating)i had 7.9K ES,now i have 8.7.
Also i had 174K AoE DPS with splash,now i have 163.Generally i think that 800+ more ES is more worth it than 11K DPS,and still,the DPS would have been much higher if i had a GG amulet,which i dont,since i never looked for one,and i have stopped trading ,and playing seriously :D.All in all the reflect situation is still pretty manageble,i thought it would much much worse
One of these days i ll try to update the first page as well.Thanks for your support :)
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/417287 - Poutsos Flicker Nuke Shadow
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reaperpi wrote:
Thank you Poutsos... everyone is qqing about VP... and you are like

" the build with the current version of the skill tree has better potential than before,with or without US."

Glad someone is looking for new options.

BTW why do you think it has more potential?


THanks mate,i think it has better potential,due to the use of amulets.Now US is only 6 points away,and u get more strength on your way there,so it is worth picking up,even without a total GG amulet.
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/417287 - Poutsos Flicker Nuke Shadow
Clear! ;)

..so, no more IR for now... but I like the idea of grace + IR in hard reflect map, i've a char with IR, EV/ES ibrid gear and runnin' grace... and I could say: it's a nice damage reduction...

..mmh, anyway flicker become: Flicker Strike - Multistrike - life leech - increased critical damage - melee splash - additional accuracy

and frenzy become: Frenzy- multistrike- life leech- added fire damage


seems ok...but I don't really understand only the added fire gem... it's provide more leech then a melee on full gem or a melee fisical gem? well, maybe I don't understand well the mechanic of leech... :)


...so nice!! excpet for the painfull GGRRRB color of a ES chest >.< :D

...any advice for a 5l chest gem setup?
Last edited by Rhadoo#2345 on Mar 6, 2014, 8:54:20 AM
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Araycan wrote:
Imho, going with Shadow now is not optimal, it wastes too much points on VP (about the same amount as before though), but now VP can be reched much easier as a Scion.

Here is the Scion version:

Scion Flicker..er

Around +25% attck speed and +8% block compared to Shadow, 36% less one-nanded damage, around the same ES and crit, doesn't waste points on Arcane Focus from witch tree (which gives only 4.3% ES per point invested), instead getting to the Scion ES cluster.

Although if you do want US and IR, Shadow version is better as in that case Scion's benefit of having 2 separate starts loses its meaning.


This would be my version of lv 93 Scion:



The shadow has 30% more physical damage overall,10% more ES,some more mana(which is essential)and 50 more dexterity.
Scion has 17% more attack speed,and 8% more block.

Since i avoid too much attack speed,cause it can cause mana issues, i prefer the shadow version,but i do agree that scion might be overall better,since she has way more options.,plus the starting resistances might help alot ppl with lesser gear.I could do another version of scion,to get multiplier instead of block,but with already reduced ES it might be too dangerous.All in all,while for my version i still prefer the Shadow,Scion is more versatile,and you can adjust her tree according to your gear
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/417287 - Poutsos Flicker Nuke Shadow

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