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ShogunGunshow wrote:
Well, you see, it's not about 'hardcoreness.' If it was, they should appreciate the patch, as GGG has given them the option for a pure FFA mode, which should be their wet dream. Yet they're complaining.
Why? Why complain when no one is forcing them to do perm allocation? Why complain when they have access to an even more 'hardcore' mode? As has been stated already, it's because now people that don't like that don't have to play with them. Now, if they want to ninja loot, they're going to have to be competing against players that also are trying their best to ninja loot.
This is why their talk about 'competition' is BS. The new FFA mode will allow them to play with other like-minded players, giving them the ultimate competition. They can play FFA and avoid all those 'filthy casuals' that they seem to hate, and GGG gets more players and money to improve the game. Win-win, right?
But you see, it's not about competition. It's not about a lack of hardcoreness. It's that now they're going to have a lot more trouble ninjaing loot. That's why they're upset about these options.
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Posted byVALVeDnB#6903on May 24, 2013, 12:51:50 PM
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This is a win for everyone, I don't see how anyone could complain.
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Posted byFullBlownDaddy#6810on May 24, 2013, 12:54:25 PM
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mazul wrote:
There is no need to change the current private system of letting all maps go to mapmaker, but the system GGG suggests is on average just slightly worse.
The grand majority of maps are white. The % lost wealth that the map maker loses for not getting a blue or higher maps, is at worst 10-20% I would guess. (Where 100% would be the total worth of all maps that dropped in the instance).
It is a small difference and when people realize mathematically how little difference it really is, they can start appriciating the changes.
Its not because rare and magic maps, especially 70+ ones, are pretty much like white maps. Magic ones make you invest a scouring + alch, rare ones safe you the alch, thats not even close to what the map is worth.
The % doesnt matter because you still havent provided a single reason to why you think leechers should be entitled to get maps. They always leave with a profit, no matter what they do. I as a maker rarely do.
You as a leecher DO NOT DESERVE maps. I am done arguing with you because theres simply isnt a point in doing so. You believe that people who pay 0 should get 1, while the person who invests 1 should get 1 as well. That simply doesnt make any sense. If you want your own map pool you provide your own maps, rolled with ýour own currency. If you are not up to doing that then dont whine if the person who actually did is not up to handing you the payout of his investment.
You provide nothing but get something out of running the map, and yet you ask for more? Unbelievable.
If you are a leecher you do not deserve any exalted drops either, by the same type of argumentation.
I am far more interested in looking at the average extra wealth the map makers get from the two different map rules: the current one for private groups and the proposed GGG one.
I am gauging that the difference is not large. Sure, if GGG implements the current private one for public parties, then people will whine less. However, as long as the difference in average wealth obtained (not net gain) through map drops between the 2 methods is small, I am ok with either solutions.
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Posted bymazul#2568on May 24, 2013, 12:54:28 PM
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You provide nothing but get something out of running the map, and yet you ask for more? Unbelievable.
why not charge players for providing your precious maps. be consistent. ggg provided the game for the majority here for free, many people didn't contribute but constantly ask for more.
unbelievable.
i'm glad that players like you aren't in the majority here.
age and treachery will triumph over youth and skill!
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Posted byvio#1992on May 24, 2013, 12:59:26 PMAlpha Member
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Oh wow, maybe I will finally enjoy pub games. Permanent allocated loot ftw
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Posted byThalandor#0885on May 24, 2013, 12:59:35 PM
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geradon wrote:
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nynyny wrote:
You provide nothing but get something out of running the map, and yet you ask for more? Unbelievable.
why not charge players for providing your precious maps.
I do, because they have to provide damage and not just stand around.
If you want to be witty at least make sure to not look like a complete fool.
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geradon wrote:
ggg provided the game for the majority here for free, many people didn't contribute but constantly ask for more.
You also think that Valve provides summer sales because they love the community so much, dont you? Incredibly funny how naive people are.
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Posted bynynyny#3398on May 24, 2013, 1:03:22 PM
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0.11.0 is looking to be quite the interesting change.
Can't wait!
"In a state of physical balance and security, power, intellectual as well as physical, would be out of place."
- H. G. Wells, The Time Machine
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Posted bySairven#6746on May 24, 2013, 1:06:43 PM
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i think this is a very good change thanks GGG
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Posted byagbudar#4976on May 24, 2013, 1:10:11 PM
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best patch ever in gaming history :)
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Posted bysYkoDe4d#0481on May 24, 2013, 1:19:28 PM
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finally fucktards. time to download the game again.
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Posted byzqlimy#4615on May 24, 2013, 1:22:21 PM
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