Looting -- The official thread for discussing the loot system. Updated 18th March, 2013.

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DiNo29 wrote:

I like it when ppl just pick up what they can use and leave the rest for the others.

Unfortunatelly, thats a manners issue, not a gameplay one.

I would agree with the timed alocation since it seems a good compromise, the exact time would be a thing to be tested.

Just do it Guild Wars style, and I'm fine. I don't really like the idea of FFA looting.

This system sounds like garbage, just do FFA loot if you are going to do this.

if you do NOT like FFA playing, simply don't play with strangers, that simple.
Leave it free devs, just leave it as done in old skool ways.

It's not just a matter of time to collect the items per class, there's also the matter of (1) breaking formation to run after an item and (2) running into a mob (as a ranged player) to grab your item which is suicidal.

Loot collection optimally happens when the screen is basically cleared and there's no threat in getting the loot- FFA breaks that.

I play SP most often; this is mainly because of the loot system. If I'm playing for drops, there's no reason to have someone else in my instance who could take them.

Every other upcomming ARPG is going toward individual loot because it caters toward co-op. You aren't constantly having your team broken up due to loot drops. When any type of FFA loot is in play, it's just chaos.

Personally I feel that FFA loot should go to cutthroat where co-op is more competetive and edgy and Standard league should get individual loot.

how about on instance exit system looting?

all dropped items gathered to one looting chest and with option need greed roll pass?

no need to hunting things while enjoying killing monsters .

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Xapti wrote:

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herflik wrote:

Make everyone have own drops on the screen based on own quantity and rarity % of drops no matter who kills the mob ,its party afterall.
If you pick up the item from ground and drop it back ,it should appear to everyone in party.

Simple as that ,no fighting over lucky drops ,no ninja stealing ,no bots problem. If you wanna give items from your "view" just trade them or pick them up and redrop.

Did you even read Chris' post?

They said that they specifically do not want to do that

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Chris wrote:

It's important to us that Path of Exile has a cut-throat feel where players are not only competing against monsters, but also their fellow players. We do not feel it is an option to arbitrarily hide items from players who have not been allocated them.

I did ,but thats actualy the only good way.
Someone can take loot only when he/she is in your party in this game ,so tell me what for you would invite some loot ninja to your party ??
Its not like some random dude will come from nowhere and take all your stuff.

Its instanced game ,you invite people that you like ,i doubt that you will want to have pain in ur ass and specialy party up with someone who you will competatie about drops.

Actualy giving it FFA can break up party gaming ,as when getting unique drop someone will take it and run ,where the party gets destroyed forever for people in it. Happens in many games ,people arent mannered to much when it comes to sharing or giving out the really rare drops that are worth alot. I saw this thing happened alot of times ,and people in those games dont wish to party ,specialy with people that they barely know.

So what for FFA drops?? They will give nothing cool to game ,fighting for drops isnt cool and enjoyable thing at all.

I don't think there's a big problem here, because the game doesn't rely on any currency. It doesn't matter how unique that item is, if you can't sell it right away. Of course, you can always try and trade it, but that calls for other things that will balance the whole thing. You'll need to spend time looking for a "buyer", you would need to know what it is worth, etc. It will essentially drive people into picking only stuff they really need, which is what you need from a looting system, anyway.

Edit: I'm a big gold-looter in other rpg games, I mean - I get upset if someone else out-clicks me and takes 50 gold from the ground. So, I must say, that the Devs made an excellent choice of not having currency that is controlling the whole economy of the game. I hope they don't add anything like that in the it.

The FFA looting is one of the biggest turn offs in this game for me. I would strongly prefer if people got loot spawned just for them rather than the click fest that dominated FFA looting.

Sure I could only invite people I know into my group but one of the reasons to play an online game like this is to meet new people and play games with them. The clickfest FFA loot system discourages that plan.

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rabidwolf9 wrote:

It's not just a matter of time to collect the items per class, there's also the matter of (1) breaking formation to run after an item and (2) running into a mob (as a ranged player) to grab your item which is suicidal.

Regarding (1): I suppose this is an issue if you're concerned about your position relative to whatever enemies are left - skills such as shock nova do require some attention to positioning if you want them to deal their best damage - but on seeing an item, really it's going to take four seconds tops to go over, pick the item up, and come back to that optimal position.

If your party can't survive four seconds of you not shooting, they probably need the loot more than you do.

Regarding (2): Well, it would be suicide, if the enemies in question weren't already preoccupied by the other party members actively shooting or hacking at them. Or maybe it wouldn't - "ranged" doesn't have to mean "glass cannon", after all. Particularly in the context of, say, enemy archers.