Path of Exile 1 Gameplay Help and Discussion - Looting -- The official thread for discussing the loot system. Updated 18th March, 2013. - Forum

" iamstryker wrote: I think the people who play many hours every day and use exploits don't relate with people who play a little when they can and don't use exploits. Losing an orb or other valuable items don't mean much when you already have enough wealth to get nearly anything that you want. Just thinking out loud here. So players who game more then you are not allowed an opinion? Perhaps this game should cater to the casual crowd just like every other game in existence?	Posted by dmouze#5681 on Dec 21, 2012, 7:07:44 PM Alpha Member Quote this Post
Mouze I agree with you that Beta is for finding these holes in the game & trying to get them fixed but you know what I see coming from the folks who do find these sploits? Nothing. None of them make posts about it, none of them stop using the sploit after it has been found, they don't discourage others from doing it & as I said before they seem to only use them for personal & selfish reasons. I would be saying well done to Slayer (not a personal attack on him btw) if he was known as the biggest sploits finder & had numerous threads on the bugs he & his mates had found. We would have respect for that but what we tend to see is those players arguing against people who don't exploit the game to keep these exploits in. Noone is saying "oh I don't deserve this Demigod cos I actually only won due to loading", now I am not expecting everyone to be a white knight but don't come across with the "we are helping the game" BS when it's others who have to make the exploits public. OB is gonna be worse, I know that & I do thank the guys who found holes in the code & reported them resulting in a fix but to all the guys out there perpetuating sploits & keeping them under your wing...Fuck You.	Posted by lethal_papercut#5270 on Dec 21, 2012, 7:24:04 PM Quote this Post
" dmouze wrote: Kripp is one of the foremost players who do things that's borderline exploiting, you must not have followed him during d3 or just turned a blind eye to everything, he even has multiple youtube videos where he discusses this :) I believe this video is where he makes soem points about his stance on things, I can't watch it cause I'm at work but I think its the right one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVrImioennA You also seem to have missed our points completely, perhaps calming down and re-reading things might make it clearer? Think again, i bet i know Kripp way early than you. Dont make assumptions what you cleary don't know. To end this, i played with Kripp back wen he start to get notice for his amazing DPS logs back in Ulduar. Is that good enought for you? You only know him wen he started the D3 project? Sorry man, you are like 4 years behind me on the "knowing Kripp" subject. Don't try to put someone you don't know down. Only because they are not from your circle from an close beta players who do intances with 6 accounts, ok mate? And second, looks like who don't know anything about Kripp is you, because he never did, and sure never gonna do what you guys are doing with the 6 accounts. If he would do it, Please, and again, don't try to look down someone, because you can make you look really bad in the process. :)	Posted by cyryc#3206 on Dec 21, 2012, 7:32:20 PM Quote this Post
" SL4Y3R wrote: First off. Where did Mouze say he boosted. Or was he just talking about the topic at hand and you made an assumption? There is also a difference between min maxing a build, and using the games loot mechanics to get the best result possible. Not multi loading, but splitting up in instances. Or knowing how lvl difference affects exp gain to get the best result possible. His words: "I for one do try to find a way within the games i play to maximise efficency. this might border on exploting at times, players like us..." This and the way he defend the use of 6 acounts at the same time, is cleary not an assumption. Or it is? :) And using 6 accounts for the purpose you guys are using, sure not is using "game mechanics".	Posted by cyryc#3206 on Dec 21, 2012, 7:41:22 PM Quote this Post
^Missing my point completely, good job :) Ontopic everything that can be said from both sides has probably been said over and over again :\|	Posted by dmouze#5681 on Dec 21, 2012, 7:41:56 PM Alpha Member Quote this Post
Ok, let me ask this as a question (to anyone). Does the current FFA loot system facilitate a situation where people with multiple accounts can exploit the IIQ mechanics and generate more loot than a solo player? If yes, do you think that should change? What would be your solution to ensure a level playing field for all players?	Posted by lethal_papercut#5270 on Dec 21, 2012, 7:48:34 PM Quote this Post
" lethal_papercut wrote: Mouze I agree with you that Beta is for finding these holes in the game & trying to get them fixed but you know what I see coming from the folks who do find these sploits? Nothing. None of them make posts about it, none of them stop using the sploit after it has been found, they don't discourage others from doing it & as I said before they seem to only use them for personal & selfish reasons. I would be saying well done to Slayer (not a personal attack on him btw) if he was known as the biggest sploits finder & had numerous threads on the bugs he & his mates had found. We would have respect for that but what we tend to see is those players arguing against people who don't exploit the game to keep these exploits in. Noone is saying "oh I don't deserve this Demigod cos I actually only won due to loading", now I am not expecting everyone to be a white knight but don't come across with the "we are helping the game" BS when it's others who have to make the exploits public. OB is gonna be worse, I know that & I do thank the guys who found holes in the code & reported them resulting in a fix but to all the guys out there perpetuating sploits & keeping them under your wing...Fuck You. Multiple threads HAVE been posted about it. In which I was amongst those advocating for a change.but which did not destroy.the teamwork aspect. I'm sorry if you didn't see those. Not my fault. And as I've said before, but you probably tuned it out. I sent Carl an email about a month after starting playing in regards to this very topic. Multiple threads have already been discussed. Do a forum search.	Posted by SL4Y3R#7487 on Dec 21, 2012, 7:51:38 PM Banned Quote this Post
" dmouze wrote: " iamstryker wrote: I think the people who play many hours every day and use exploits don't relate with people who play a little when they can and don't use exploits. Losing an orb or other valuable items don't mean much when you already have enough wealth to get nearly anything that you want. Just thinking out loud here. So players who game more then you are not allowed an opinion? Perhaps this game should cater to the casual crowd just like every other game in existence? The key part of his post is and use exploits no problem with players who play long hours. They earn their wealth and have a accurate perspective. IGN: Wrathmar * Paulie * Client	Posted by wrathmar#4456 on Dec 21, 2012, 8:01:01 PM Quote this Post
" dmouze wrote: ^Missing my point completely, good job :) Ontopic everything that can be said from both sides has probably been said over and over again :\| You miss you own point. Trying defend an exploiting with the argument is a game mechanic. Come on man, you don't believe using 6 accounts is a in game mechanic. Tha't can't be true.	Posted by cyryc#3206 on Dec 21, 2012, 8:05:24 PM Quote this Post
Slayer I believe I have a valid point. You have claimed that FFA is a 'rush' If you truly feel this way, how about setting up the loot system where any item whose timer expires is automatically destroyed and NO ONE is able to loot it? This would increase the 'rush' of FFA and damage the viability of mulit-boxing at the same time. IGN: Wrathmar * Paulie * Client	Posted by wrathmar#4456 on Dec 21, 2012, 8:05:46 PM Quote this Post