Crafting-- It's not just about the Economy

Don't get me wrong in this post as I too find the economic situation to be ridiculous. Beyond that the orbs we are speaking about are integral to crafting. My feel is that game is not as good as it could be because crafting is just plain too difficult. First to obtain the orbs you need to craft and secondly down to the fundamentals (fusing or color changing) the process is too damn random and never gets better. (i.e. the success you have in crafting is not skill related at all). Why can't I just apply a chrom to a particular socket? Why can't I just use 3 fusings in bulk if I want to create 3 links? Why can't I at least choose a category to get a random value from when blowing an freaking exalt!!! The feel is that this totally being over looked. Or maybe GGG just really doesn't care about this aspect of the game?

I think GGG could fix crafting and the economy if they WANTED to.

Ok so now a bit of rant about the orb drops. Perhaps both crafting and the economy could be helped by making orb drops more common including ...... INCLUDING (emphasis added) freaking exalted orbs and reducing the hordes of the useless blue and white drops (note- some of the white drops are useful but so many are just plain crap). Or I could have said this another way by just saying make it so CRAP quits dropping so much and USEFUL stuff drops more often. It ain't rocket science and frankly it torques me that GGG twiddles their thumbs and does nothing about it. And please don't even get me started about IIR and IIQ and how they affect drops... as the over abundant need for either is a symptom of the bad drop ratios not a true aspect or remedy. As long as the baseline is totally screwed up IIQ and IIR is not an explanation, answer or justification for the issue.

Ok here's another easy part of a fix (seems simple enough)... how about the vendors start giving you some value for what you sell to them... So there are ample fairly useless Unique (orange) item drops, you can't even sell the damn things for an Alch... trade them to the vendor and they aren't worth a thing... why not make all uniques worth at least a chaos at the vendor and some worth up to an exalt? Why not make a recipe for uniques so that you can get high value orbs by accumulating crappy oranges? Why not do something to fix the stinking vendor trade values????? The only answer I can think of is they really don't give a crap about it and the players who suffer through it.. So GGG prove me wrong... quit twiddling your thumbs while the economy spins out of control and fix it!!!!!!!!!!
We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.
Last edited by Pavshaus#6712 on May 2, 2013, 8:45:04 AM
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Quick points:

- if GGG is to "fix" this system, they first need to believe it is broken; interviews and posts indicate they do not
- "crafting" is not difficult - this should be a word uttered with respect in games, for challenge is rather hard to find these days. It is just random :)
- "crafting" is also hardly crafting, this is misleading. It's just plain ol' gambling.

Other than that, your feedback would be rather more useful on one of the already big topics on "crafting". Might get lost, true, but it will also grow and bump that topic (nothing you posted is new in any way, this has been discussed for weeks...), and for GGG to be impressed, you need some 900 pages of criticism...

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Last edited by Undon3#5633 on May 2, 2013, 9:13:31 AM
NEVER CRAFT,

I never craft, ever and I have great gear.

My friends craft all the time - they are all broke as shit and beg me for loans.

Nuff Said - don't craft, just trade your stuff.



All selfcrafted.


Played 1 week actual game at ob start, then started crafting bows, made about 200. After that ive been crafting random stuff. No maps done.

Never.

Ofc its been long time project, so getting stuff isnt easy,

THOUGH

I agree, crafting has changed. Even if 1 ex is now 40 ex, I made currency when it was 15 chaos, now im losing alot.

Ign: FitzG
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FitzGX wrote:



All selfcrafted.




All selfcrafted with mountains of currency you bought on d2jsp - that's not really an option to everyone is it?
Wrong.

I started from nothing when ob started. Get ur facts right.

Can prove it to you if i needed to, think I dont need to.



And my point wasnt that.

My point was that with clever mind and hard trying you can success on crafting.

I really did start from scratch, why the fuck would anybody doubt it when ive done it for freakin 4 months.

Anyways the discussion wasnt about me, it was about crafting overally.

Ign: FitzG
Last edited by FitzGX#1531 on May 2, 2013, 11:04:37 AM
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FitzGX wrote:
Wrong.

I started from nothing when ob started. Get ur facts right.

Can prove it to you if i needed to, think I dont need to.


right...

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=67181121
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=67167622
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=67123078
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=67107638

and best of all WTB 3000 chaos orbs - http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=67107381
Last edited by spyderpyg789#1338 on May 2, 2013, 11:23:43 AM
You can get succes at crafting if you have TONS of currency like that guy from jsp

Problaby for craft 4 6L an average player would need YEARS. Including me and i used to play a lot
Ouch...

Kinda owned :)

Now get busy hoping mods won't report you to support, or devs won't see this...
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Last edited by Undon3#5633 on May 2, 2013, 11:20:37 AM
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spyderpyg789 wrote:
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FitzGX wrote:
Wrong.

I started from nothing when ob started. Get ur facts right.

Can prove it to you if i needed to, think I dont need to.


right...

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=67181121
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=67167622
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=67123078
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=67107638


Lold im outta here seriously.

Bunch of jealous guys here who complain in all feedback threads how hard crafting is.


IT FUCKING IS HARD, AND ITS UNPROFITING.

It was way easier when OPEN BETA started.

More players, less items.

Now, less players, too many items.

And you dont need godlies to play the game. Because the pvp system is crap.

Im not complaining about crafting. I'd complain about PvP. Only thing holding ppl to a serious game. And this game has no serious PvP.

If you think I got these items via fg/real money, you really have no idea.

Some ppl here know me for honest guy, there's a reason for it.

Ign: FitzG
Last edited by FitzGX#1531 on May 2, 2013, 11:44:12 AM

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