Floating combat text

Just fyi, I think a lot of people might not notice the symbol next to the thread gives you *ONLY* the dev responses (no idea which page of the thread it was on):

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BrianWeissman wrote:

Floating combat text(FCT) is something that a lot of people 1. enjoy and 2. expect from a game in this genre. There are also definitely people who don't like it, and would never choose to have it enabled.

However, we're trying to appeal to as wide a community as possible, so it's quite likely that POE will eventually have three different options for FCT. The first would be the default, which is "Off". The second would be a version that merely shows your critical hits as FCT, possibly with the additional note of "Critical". The third option would be complete FCT, that shows all damage dealt, as well as misses and blocks.

There are valid arguments for all three types of FCT, so we'll try to arrive at something that pleases the most people. Hope that makes you guys happy!

Just as an iteration why FCT is worth pursuing as an option for an ARPG carrying on the finest traditions of the genre:

Torchlight(2009) and Titan Quest(2006) had Floating Combat Text.

So did Nox(2000), which came out before even Diablo 2.

...as did Darkstone(1999), the first true Diablo clone.

Doing it the LoL way would be best imo.

They have different options for incoming and outgoing damage, healing etc.

id love to see them add this.

I agree, please add.

Floating combat text or a combat log would be good.

Add FCT as an optional feature it would be much apreciated, thx

Great! Thx GGG

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SkinnyG wrote:

Floating combat text or a combat log would be good.

Yes, I agree.

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xxnoob wrote:

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aitalar wrote:

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xxnoob wrote:

I swear people are either trying to troll or want this to be Diablo 3. These suggestions are too fishy.

Sorry but i don't see where you get your assumptions from.
I think it's a good suggestion as long as it stays optional, you guys act like you'd be forced to use combat text.

Because I see suggestions being made here that are elements straight out of D3.

This is not the first one.

You CAN'T be serious?

I have been dabbling in many games lately trying to find the next big thing (since Diablo 3 isn't exactly what I wanted it to be, at least not YET, needs time).

One thing I have seen is that people will DEFEND perceived problems with the game they are following closely so blindly and accuse anyone suggesting things as fanboys of another game.

I can tell you I'm no fanboy, I am not devoted to any 1 game and from a completely objective point of view, giving the player MORE INFORMATION is USUALLY a GOOD thing. ESPECIALLY if you can make it OPTIONAL.

Your comment reeks of stubborn ignorance. How dare the game have something almost every other game in it's genre has, right? It's not just something out of Diablo.

It's a tool that min/maxers use. RPG's will ALWAYS draw min/maxers and people that like to play with numbers and optimize characters.

I understand it's an ARPG, emphasis on the "A", and hacking and slashing is fun and it may be enough for many people, but when I hack and then slash, I want to know exactly how efficiently I am doing it and how I can do it better. I need information to do that and that information comes from floating combat text.

Information like that impacts MANY choices good players make during combat. There's no reason to deprive these types of players (a GIGANTIC portion of players I'm sure, it's an RPG, numbers are part of the fun).

There's even LESS of a reason to say you don't want it BECAUSE IT IS IN ANOTHER SIMILAR GAME ALREADY.

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DeF46 wrote:

The problem is even if I don't like it, the fact that it gives more information will make me feel like I have to put it on. Every time I die or get in a rough spot, I'll feel like I might have learned more if I switched it on, I am pretty much forced to use it.

So you agree that you can learn from the information and become a better player / make better decisions, but you still don't want to use it?

That mindset is a little too much action and not enough RPG.

Using numbers to your advantage is a defining staple of the RPG genre and is what draws the majority of it's audience. People like seeing power in the form of a number and then manipulating those numbers. Seeing those numbers lets you do it better, which you already acknowledged.

I kind of see where you're going with the "even if it's option I would have to use it" thing because other people would have an advantage over you in ladders and things like that. So while other people having it on may not DIRECTLY impact your enjoyment of the game, in the end, when you can't place high on a ladder due to a disadvantage, your enjoyment may suffer.

So, I get that. But if you're the kind of person that would feel that way, you wouldn't mind FCT AT ALL. You would CRAVE that extra information if you were competitive like that.

When done right, FCT can be extremely noninvasive and clunky while still giving you good information. I feel like it's a sin to bring D3 up around here because of the flaming that usually follows, but D3's FCT is functional, legible, informative, and doesn't get in the way that much if you use some of the filters.

While I appreciate your zeal, Glowyrm, I think this thread makes clear that xxnoob made a naive call and was solidly corrected on that.