Duelist - VIDEO GUIDE ~~';..;'~~-|===> Elmo's 2H Lightning Stick VER.2 UPDATED! 10k-69kDPS CONFIMRED - Forum

Spoiler " ElmoLiftsBro wrote: " takeme wrote: Your dps is way way wrong. The projectiles is bases of your attack but are still projectiles and get no benefit from melee-specific bonuses like str, melee damage passivs or melee damage support gem. Its easy to test, remove your Melee Physical Damage support gem and your projectiles will do the same dmg (just tested it to be 100% sure) Your actual dmg is 70% of your dmg if you removed all melee passivs, support gem and all str then + all that adds dmg to projectiles only. " Mark_GGG wrote: The projectiles are not melee, and do no benefit from any melee-specific bonuses. They are dealing your weapon damage, and do benefit from bonuses to your weapon type, or categories which include your weapon. You dps is not even close to 57k or even 35k sorry. This is old dated information you are relying on " Mark_GGG wrote: " deadb0lt wrote: This may have changed, but official GGG comment is that point blank does not work with lightning strike - haven't tested myself though. Iron Grip however works I think. http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/18361/page/4 That post is a year old and refers to a previous version of Point Blank that worked differently. Lightning Strike's projectiles are affected by Point Blank I just tested this after your post, you are wrong. I took my melee physical damage gem off and it had extreme negative effects on my lightning portion of this skill. this was changed during open beta and you are relying on closed beta information You should test again and remember dmg range alot so find same mob and kill like 50-100 and check the lowest/highest dmg you do both with and without the gem. Also you can se this in your videos, just one example at Video part 3 at 1:20 your projectiles do less then your melee hit even with point blank. (Can find alot more points showing it in your videos if thats really necessary) I had about same char as you on hardcore so tested this alot and also asked top players how it works. (less dps but more survivability) Im not relying on any info its tested. IGN: eLdiLdoRadO Last edited by takeme#3386 on Mar 22, 2013, 1:59:38 PM	Posted by takeme#3386 on Mar 22, 2013, 1:48:33 PM Quote this Post
" You should test again and remember dmg range alot so find same mob and kill like 50-100 and check the lowest/highest dmg you do both with and without the gem. Also you can se this in your videos, just one example at Video part 3 at 1:20 your projectiles seems to do less then your melee hit even with point blank. (Can find alot more points showing it in your videos if thats really necessary) I had about same char as you on hardcore so tested this alot and also asked top players how it works. (less dps but more survivability) Im not relying on any info its tested. (Died so havent played him for some time only to test this now again) You should check video 4 of the full effect where all gems are equipped. Also it was explained in the videos this full effective dps is close range only, watch the videos for more information. I was wrong in the calculation, I put the MPD gem into the projectile additives. I posted about it on page 5 and will update thread to the new appropriate amount of 49k dps. Thanks for the information guys and sorry for the slight miscalculation. Last edited by ElmoLiftsBro#1082 on Mar 22, 2013, 2:02:15 PM	Posted by ElmoLiftsBro#1082 on Mar 22, 2013, 2:01:55 PM Quote this Post
Also another thing to understand is this. Physical damage bonuses are applied at a .35 rate as half of our projectile is being done as physical damage, thats why leech gear works so well because your leech properties still apply, just at a reduced rate. Hopefully next week there will be some interesting new support gems so Iron grip can be taken in the skill tree instead of using the gem. This would open up a spot for lightning penetration and make getting static blows very viable. Last edited by ElmoLiftsBro#1082 on Mar 22, 2013, 2:15:11 PM	Posted by ElmoLiftsBro#1082 on Mar 22, 2013, 2:13:06 PM Quote this Post
Im not wrong about what I said about the projectiles. The last video is almost impossible to watch do to lag but the boss/rares that that you say you do insane dps to is not getting hit by projectiles but your melee part of the hit. When you hit a monster in melee with LS they dont also get hit by the projectiles. One thing you can tell is that your projectiles dont do close to 2-2.5 times the dmg of your melee atk as they should by your logic. IGN: eLdiLdoRadO Last edited by takeme#3386 on Mar 22, 2013, 9:07:26 PM	Posted by takeme#3386 on Mar 22, 2013, 3:01:43 PM Quote this Post
Love seeing builds like this that has been tested, that does work. It probably won't work for everybody but that's whats great about this game. Finding out what works for you. You using Iron Grip is like me using Concentrated Effect on my Cleave. Give and take kind of thing. When I play games I like to be the in your face kinda guy and hit monsters in the mouth so Lightning Strike didn't work too well for me, but I watched the videos and really cool stuff. Keep it up. IGN: Zeldoon - 88 Duelist Archdoon - 66 Ranger Selling All the equipment on my 88Duelist http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/308598	Posted by Zeldoon#4305 on Mar 22, 2013, 3:04:12 PM Quote this Post
" ElmoLiftsBro wrote: 10,000 x.7(projectile damage) = 7000 7000 x 1.8(iron grip) = 12,800 Iron grips final damage 15800 BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ WRONG! The damage from iron grip will be added to the damage from all your other additive stuff such as strength and whatever passives you have that apply to swords. It is NOT a new multiplier. Build of the week #9 - Breaking your face with style http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_EcQDOUN9Y IGN: Poltun	Posted by faerwin#5850 on Mar 22, 2013, 5:05:29 PM Alpha Member Quote this Post
I'm a bit confused - 57k dps and 7k hp seems too good to be true, can anyone (not including topic owner) confirm that this dps is counted properly? IGN: Prezidento	Posted by Prezidento#4650 on Mar 22, 2013, 5:41:02 PM Quote this Post
" Prezidento wrote: I'm a bit confused - 57k dps and 7k hp seems too good to be true, can anyone (not including topic owner) confirm that this dps is counted properly? It's not, it's extremely faulty on multiple areas. Build of the week #9 - Breaking your face with style http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_EcQDOUN9Y IGN: Poltun	Posted by faerwin#5850 on Mar 22, 2013, 5:44:38 PM Alpha Member Quote this Post
I'm going to make a version 2 of this build, some very helpful posts as you guys have read have pointed out some flaws in this build. What happened is the information I had read was outdated and changed in patch 10.0 and was functioning as un intended at one point, this is where a basis of my initial information came from. I Thank everyone who contacted me in game and posted here helping out with information, it has actually made the end result stronger and a better build for version 2 which I will work on throughout the weekend. Now onto the good news, I have spent the past day on a 12 hour theory crafting grind to resurrect this build and I wasn't going to settle for anything sub par, I wanted better, and I'm proud to say I accomplished that. I will be making version 2 of this making a completely new guide with updated information and a different build (a variation of this) that is actually much better and stronger with some unique factors and principles. Stay tuned guys!	Posted by ElmoLiftsBro#1082 on Mar 22, 2013, 10:03:07 PM Quote this Post
I deal more damage than you do... I actually 1 shot. Too bad can't see dmg numbers. The rest of the 'end-game' content will be available along with a heap of new stuff when the game launches in a few months time. From what I've seen it's going to be awesome. - Michael_GGG	Posted by tobes111#6962 on Mar 23, 2013, 12:23:32 AM Quote this Post