VIDEO GUIDE ~~';..;'~~-|===> Elmo's 2H Lightning Stick VER.2 UPDATED! 10k-69kDPS CONFIMRED

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Kwanzaa wrote:
Hey just wanted to say its a nice guide, thanks for putting the effort in.

I'm surprised to see the amount of people here arguing against this build, Considering its got video proof of its performance i don't get where the beefs coming from. Ive seen way, way shitter builds and guides recieve priase like they are a gift from god.

If your going to argue this guy he deserves that you back your claims up than just pouting around about someone elses guide like a fucking jackass, do the work like hes done than compare your results.


Thank you for the kind words, most people are just jealous and it shows. These beefs are just people following me around from thread to thread QQing on everything I post because they don't like me due to me making one of their friends quit the game :D.

The funny thing that they don't know is all that they are accomplishing by posting in my threads is a form of popularity which attracts others du to the amount of posts my threads get. So in a way they are helping me out.

I have had 6 people contact me in regards to this guide saying "I never would have looked at your guide if it wasn't for all the posts" or "It's funny because even though that one group of friends slam you it's actually the reason i came and checked out your guide" so through there pain comes my success.

If it really bothered me that much i could send an email to support@grindinggear.com which is the GGG forums support group and point out the violations they are breaking by following me around posting in my threads, I wouldn't do this though because all their doing is making my build famous :D
Last edited by ElmoLiftsBro on Mar 29, 2013, 12:52:58 PM
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ElmoLiftsBro wrote:
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whoosh. That awkward moment when someone takes sarcasm at face value and quotes it

-Inval's LS does 10k dps but the numbers dont include crit chance. He crits 50% of the time, with the 900% multiplier u mentioned, boosting his dps far beyond 10k.

-Those crits means he stacks shock 50% of time instead of your 20%

-He has less def but he has ~65% chance to block which has no animation since he uses eye of chayula

- So you think your smart? Well i guess you have some brains to scam so much items but in terms of gaming ability... like i said Invalesco's shadow steps all over this

-Inval stopped playing Shadow due to the CI nerfs and before it got buffed again. He's also playing templar because hes bored of shadow


gj completely avoiding this statement

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ElmoLiftsBro wrote:
p.p.s. gj matching two completely different skill trees by two completely different characters using two completely different styles of play with two different types of health pools with a magnitude of difference in auras of choice.



but hey, your highest char is a level 59 ranger so you sure do know what your talking about.


Its pathetic how you look at people, make premature judgments and think your correct.
FYI I started playing last year and after reaching endgame in CB i experiment with low level builds now.
Ive also seen you repeatedly corrected on everything from game mechanics to gameplay decisions while you call others noobs and scrubs. Everything about you is toxic, arrogant and deceptive. Looking at YOUR search history i see numerous posts made to piss of others as you laugh/insult them. I also see numerous posts telling other they're wrong then backtracking when mods/alphamembers/pros/GGGstaff correct you.
Then when other people get annoyed you retreat behind the "jelly hater" shield.

How about instead of launching person attacks (calling me a lvl 59 noob huh?) and making completely wrong judgments actually admit your sometimes wrong?

I would also like to know what statement im avoiding.
As for the different characters i think 2 people using lightning strike in melee is quite comparable... It dosent matter if ones using HP or another ES all i cared about is how tanky. As for the auras both builds can pick and chose whichever you like. I dont see how this makes them incomparable.
PS ill shut up and leave you alone if you can record a vid using NORMAL non-godly gear going maps since im still not convinced this builds power isnt coming solely from godly gear.

tyvm
Last edited by H4xolotl on Mar 30, 2013, 1:40:13 AM
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Its pathetic how you look at people, make premature judgments and think your correct.
FYI I started playing last year and after reaching endgame in CB i experiment with low level builds now.
Ive also seen you repeatedly corrected on everything from game mechanics to gameplay decisions while you call others noobs and scrubs. Everything about you is toxic, arrogant and deceptive. Looking at YOUR search history i see numerous posts made to piss of others as you laugh/insult them. I also see numerous posts telling other they're wrong then backtracking when mods/alphamembers/pros/GGGstaff correct you.
Then when other people get annoyed you retreat behind the "jelly hater" shield.

How about instead of launching person attacks (calling me a lvl 59 noob huh?) and making completely wrong judgments actually admit your sometimes wrong?

I would also like to know what statement im avoiding.
As for the different characters i think 2 people using lightning strike in melee is quite comparable... It dosent matter if ones using HP or another ES all i cared about is how tanky. As for the auras both builds can pick and chose whichever you like. I dont see how this makes them incomparable.


It's best you try not to think, it will reduce the amount of times your wrong per second.
Heya, please avoid letting thread topics escalate into hostile arguments. Keep your posts relevant to the thread.

Thank you!
Bex
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Bex_GGG wrote:
Heya, please avoid letting thread topics escalate into hostile arguments. Keep your posts relevant to the thread.

Thank you!
Bex


Thank you :D
Wow this whole thread is a train wreck. Quick question. Why run IR without Grace or Unwavering? I see a lot of value placed into armor here and judging from the one video I watched I see that you are rarely in melee range (or at least not for any extended period of time).

I also would be curious to see your dps if you were using say a 4L. I don't want to be critical of the build, but it is rather gear dependent. I know you addressed that in your OP but I wonder just how much of a difference those 2 links would make.
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Last edited by TheAxiom on Mar 30, 2013, 2:52:29 AM
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TheAxiom wrote:
Wow this whole thread is a train wreck. Quick question. Why run IR without Grace or Unwavering? I see a lot of value placed into armor here and judging from the one video I watched I see that you are rarely in melee range (or at least not for any extended period of time).

I also would be curious to see your dps if you were using say a 4L. I don't want to be critical of the build, but it is rather gear dependent. I know you addressed that in your OP but I wonder just how much of a difference those 2 links would make.


I do run grace, it is explained in the video titled defense, you can watch that for clarification.

I come from competitive tier 1 game called HoN where I was on a top 10 team (teams consist of 5 people) worldwide (about 2million registered players, it is a dota like game) where micro is important, I generally try to never get hit in melee range, to me this is just playing properly and using my natural micro skills and apm to ensure I never get hit. Also when you kills things before they can even get close to you I don't see why I would ever get hit to begin with.

Now this comment is not suppose to sound smug or demeaning and I will communicate this in the best way possible while not trying to be offensive.
Am i suppose to let the monster pound on me? In my opinion if I just stood there and let the monsters hammer me without any condentation of skill at all I would comment but I tend to micro a lot so you will not see me get hit often in the videos I produce, for this I am sorry that I cannot show you a style of lazy game play where I let monsters beat on me un needlessly due to a lack of effort and an obvious laziness.

Again that is not meant to be an insult or come across negative, it is merely my views on playing properly.

with any build it will get stronger the better the gear you have and it is perfectly feasible to run this without god tier gear, and if you watch the video titled poor mans guide I will explain this more in depth and talk about what gear you will need to get for a poor mans version of this which will sustain you until you have the god tier gear.

I hope this helps.
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ElmoLiftsBro wrote:


It's best you try not to think, it will reduce the amount of times your wrong per second.

This guide almost turning into "how to insult' :P.
So is your character better than Inval's? Still trying to decide on a melee character :)
How is Sodium wrong? Why does Sodium think your wrong? Your both making personal attacks instead of actual facts and it isnt helping readers understand XD.

Thx
Last edited by Icarax on Mar 30, 2013, 4:34:22 AM
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ElmoLiftsBro wrote:
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TheAxiom wrote:
Wow this whole thread is a train wreck. Quick question. Why run IR without Grace or Unwavering? I see a lot of value placed into armor here and judging from the one video I watched I see that you are rarely in melee range (or at least not for any extended period of time).

I also would be curious to see your dps if you were using say a 4L. I don't want to be critical of the build, but it is rather gear dependent. I know you addressed that in your OP but I wonder just how much of a difference those 2 links would make.


I do run grace, it is explained in the video titled defense, you can watch that for clarification.

I come from competitive tier 1 game called HoN where I was on a top 10 team (teams consist of 5 people) worldwide (about 2million registered players, it is a dota like game) where micro is important, I generally try to never get hit in melee range, to me this is just playing properly and using my natural micro skills and apm to ensure I never get hit. Also when you kills things before they can even get close to you I don't see why I would ever get hit to begin with.

Now this comment is not suppose to sound smug or demeaning and I will communicate this in the best way possible while not trying to be offensive.
Am i suppose to let the monster pound on me? In my opinion if I just stood there and let the monsters hammer me without any condentation of skill at all I would comment but I tend to micro a lot so you will not see me get hit often in the videos I produce, for this I am sorry that I cannot show you a style of lazy game play where I let monsters beat on me un needlessly due to a lack of effort and an obvious laziness.

Again that is not meant to be an insult or come across negative, it is merely my views on playing properly.

with any build it will get stronger the better the gear you have and it is perfectly feasible to run this without god tier gear, and if you watch the video titled poor mans guide I will explain this more in depth and talk about what gear you will need to get for a poor mans version of this which will sustain you until you have the god tier gear.

I hope this helps.


Right on man. Admittedly, I didn't watch all the videos so I must have missed that part. I did hear you talking about microing which I'm somewhat familiar with (I was very competitive while I played World of Warcraft).

One thing I'm beginning to see across the forums (and even in this thread) is people becoming biased towards their own build and I think I was guilty of that when I wrote that last post. Even though the builds and playstyles are fundamentally different I'm sometimes narrow-minded when it comes to critiquing other players builds because I have a sort of definition of a duelist build ingrained in my head.
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