Logout macro EXPLAINED

I agree that the macro the OP describes looks very illegal.

I also agree that HC (and SC) players should get a minimum amount of seconds before the server applies the logout regardless of what happens.

However, I also feel that the disconnect timer from the server for a legit DC should be MUCH shorter than it is now, and if possible, configurable by the user so they can account for bad connections themselves.

I'll tell you the secret reason why GGG allows the logout macro... because they know it's the only way for HC players to deal with the GAME FREEZING.

You can't alt-f4 out of a freeze, can't esc-logout, can't TP, can't do anything while your char just stands there for 6-12 seconds dying. The only thing that saves you is the logout macro. Anybody who plays a lot will have their game freeze multiple times per league because GGG can't program their way out of a paper bag.

So instead of fixing the terrible game client, GGG lets HC players use the logout macro as a bandaid for THEIR terrible programming. End of story.

Regardless of anything else that may or may not be authorized, Chris has publicly endorsed the use of log out macros. If you don’t believe me, look it up. I’m not going to waste my time doing that for you. GGG can at any time retract that authorization, but as of now I do not know of them doing so. If they were going to, now would be the time with an imminent SSFHC race coinciding with the game being made more difficult.

OP, you mentioned Ziz. He’s quite willing to admit he isn’t employed by GGG, and I don’t think GGG has ever actually paid him anything directly. He does have a good working relationship with Chris though. Really, if you want any sort of confirmation, email support, because GGG isn’t going to respond to this thread.

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silverdash wrote:

However, I also feel that the disconnect timer from the server for a legit DC should be MUCH shorter than it is now, and if possible, configurable by the user so they can account for bad connections themselves.

Honestly if the DC timer was configurable instead of 6 seconds, I'd set it to 0.5 seconds and never even consider using a logout macro. I play softcore and I'm okay with dying sometimes to stupidity.

But the sole reason Chris refuses to let us configure the dc timer is because morons with awful connections exist. He's literally said this. I mean, he didn't use the word "morons", but he described that people whose ping semiregularly exceeds 200ms would configure a 200ms dc timer "because some streamer somewhere said that's what they were doing" and then complain to support when they get booted out of the game every minute.

And he's not actually wrong, but even so, I would argue that the game's community would be better off if people that stupid just quit, forever.

You know what? I don´t care about this Macro Logout thing. In short what it really means is: If you´re a true HARDCORE player, you STAY HARDCORE, and then you PLAY it that way.
A TRUE HARDCORE player doesn´t log out during the last second. You stay in the game till you´re finished, then you log out because you are finished with that session. A true HaRDCORE player doesn´t cheat.

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Kundarin wrote:

You know what? I don´t care about this Macro Logout thing. In short what it really means is: If you´re a true HARDCORE player, you STAY HARDCORE, and then you PLAY it that way.
A TRUE HARDCORE player doesn´t log out during the last second. You stay in the game till you´re finished, then you log out because you are finished with that session. A true HaRDCORE player doesn´t cheat.

True hardcore players run around without any items but an weapon and see how far they can get into the game.....

I suppose you do that aswell then?

Why are you guys discussing it here, wasting your time?

GGG made it very clear they do not care about people who use their forums.
Their priority is
1-Streamers
2-Redditors
3-People who doesn't play and doesn't know what PoE is
4-People who discuss things on forums

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herflik wrote:

GGG say that you can use macro as long as 1 button = 1 action.
If its like pluging out your cable jack then its few actions: stand up from your chair, go around your computer, catch the cable, plug out.
So in this term its illegal.

Not 1 action but 1 server side action. You press one button and it causes the server to do one thing log your char out.
The macro is perfectly fine it's just completely stupid but alt+F4 was also stupid. They simply should add a 5 sec. logout timer when you are not in town or not in your hideout. POE never had a hardcore mode it always was alt+F4-core aka useless unless your epeen needs some love.

it was literally called a tcp/ip logout macro. duh. its well known it uses a third party program and hence why GGG won't officially implement it as a bundled exe (and obviously they won't include it in-game for obvious reasons)

are you really a programmer ?
the explanation isn't really that good

"When the tcp/ip socket to the server is closed, the sever immediately logs out your char. When you manually perform esc-logout the client needs to clean up some stuff, close sockets "the correct way", release memory assets and so on."

its not just closing the socket. its a RST+ACK sent. it's not considered a 'normal' closure of socket in terms of network programming between two sockets. The RST packet is what immediately tells the server that you're out. And it's a proactive send.

really, the best way to explain it is just link this
post:https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/31qzdn/im_challenging_altf4_being_the_fastest_way_to/